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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DrivinMissDaisy
These are both calibrated for my altitude of ~2500ft. I did not think they would be this close. I guess I don't need my JDM sensor.

This is a huge difference in the vacuum area but boost looks almost the same. It was like this on all my logs tonight.
The Zeitronix Kavlico precision sensor is of medical and military grade. It is about as accurate as you can get.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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One more question then..... which version of EVOScan is the most rock solid right out of the box? I've been sticking with 99 because it does almost everything I need it to and it works. Some of the other ones had all kinds of forumula issues and such.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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Well I upgraded to EVOScan 2.5 and as stated above the zeitronix inputs worked flawlessly. Thanks for the help.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
The vaccum is off most likely because the JDM MAP is logging it as psig and not in inches of vaccum. I am unfamiliar with the Zeitronix though so I dont know what its logging the value as.
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Zeitronix Zt-2 reads boost in PSI and vacuum in inHg or BAR and mmHg if you ask it to.
I'm a little confused on the Zeitronix output. When it goes into vacuum the units change so that the signal is not linear as it crosses through vacuum? Or is this just a conversion that the Zeitronix ZT-2 software does?

I'm having a hard time finding a formula that reconciles my ZT-2 readings (in both boost and vacuum) with the same sensor read through EvoScan via the OEM MDP pin (Evo8).

I want to get this straightened out so I can move forward confidently on the jcsbanks SD patch. I have the GM AIT working perfectly and this is the only impediment to SD progress!

Thanks.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 06:16 AM
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I should have spent a little more time with this before posting. The Zeitronix sensor is giving a linear output, but the Zeitronix software is applying a different formula when it goes into boost to convert it to inHG. Once I realized that and applied a correction to the numbers (P in psi = .491154 * P in inchHG), things made a lot more sense.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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The Zt-2 outputs PSI for boost and inHg for vacuum when setup in PSI units. When setup in metric BAR and mmHg respectively. MSB is signed for vacuum.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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This may be an odd question but, would it be possible to connect the JDM map sensor ecu signal to the zeitronix zt-2 datalogging system in order to monitor/log boost?

The reason I ask is because I would like to use the zeitronix zr-2 multigauge, which is plug and play with the zt-2, and it would be much easier/cleaner for me to be able to use the factory JDM MAP sensor.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack_of_Trades
I assume you meant Evoscan and not ECUFlash lol. The only other way to datalog it in evoscan without splicing is to use the serial output with a USB adapter. You just need to plug it in and tell Evoscan which USB port its plugged into and you can datalog in evoscan without having to use the Zeitronix software. It lags a LOT sometimes, most of the time its just fine though.
not to go OT but does the jdm map lag at all with a serial to usb??

p.s. your sensor ships tomorrow. i have off. hehe
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by krazykorean84
This may be an odd question but, would it be possible to connect the JDM map sensor ecu signal to the zeitronix zt-2 datalogging system in order to monitor/log boost?

The reason I ask is because I would like to use the zeitronix zr-2 multigauge, which is plug and play with the zt-2, and it would be much easier/cleaner for me to be able to use the factory JDM MAP sensor.
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
not to go OT but does the jdm map lag at all with a serial to usb??

p.s. your sensor ships tomorrow. i have off. hehe
I have instances when the USB input from the Xeitronix sensors would lag behind by a few seconds but I believe this has more to do with my computer and/or evoscan rather than the zeitronix. When I log my ZT map sensor and the JDM map sensor they are usually IDENTICAL except the ZT output applies slight smoothing it seems and thr JDM map sensor is more raw and jagged. Not nearly enough to consider them different in their purpose though.

Thanks for shipping that out!!!! Now I can tune the Mirage for boost!!!!
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 05:45 AM
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So, theoretically I could tap the ecu map sensor signal wire and connect it to the zt-2 and be able to see boost on the zr-2 gauge?
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by krazykorean84
So, theoretically I could tap the ecu map sensor signal wire and connect it to the zt-2 and be able to see boost on the zr-2 gauge?
Yes, as long as you have the correct values required to be entered into the MAP sensor settings in ECUFlash. I tried doing it with MrFred over a year ago to no avail. I haven't been following things long enough to know if anyone ever figured out the correct values or not.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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^Not sure you guys are communicating. I think the issue to tapping the JDM sensor is a question of configurability (is that a word?) of the Zeitronix software for the ZT-2. EcuFlash and EvoScan parameters would be irrelevant.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
^Not sure you guys are communicating. I think the issue to tapping the JDM sensor is a question of configurability (is that a word?) of the Zeitronix software for the ZT-2. EcuFlash and EvoScan parameters would be irrelevant.
Right! I'm not sure if there is anything I can do to reconfigure the ZT-2 for the JDM MAP, but would I even need to if the output voltage/range of both sensors are the same?
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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The voltage swing of the JDM Map sensor and the ZT-2 sensor are WAYYY different. The ZT sensor has less range (.5v to 4.5v I think). The linear output of the ZT-2 is totally usable for logging but someone like MrFred needs to configure the parameters in the ROM to work with the ZT sensor when doing its calculations in the ECU. We tried it but there was little resolution using 8bit and I think he said it was better to do it using the 16bit signal or something. You should be able to have the ZT Map sensor signal be split between the ECU input and the ZT-2 input without any incident.

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