injector problem?
its easy to decrease the spark plug gap. do that first and see if that fixes it. fyi 9 sparkplug gap is diff from the 8s. here is the 9s Standard value: 0.5 − 0.6 mm (0.020 − 0.024 inch) you could try around 0.020 and see.
Dan - I just reread your second paragraph - Your not suggesting that my timing going from 4->3 is causing the problem?? but rather the low timing in the first place? (I am still not sure why lower timing results in higher chance of spark blowout??)
I think I get knock if I go from 3->5 degrees of timing. I know it *should* work, since I was running 4* earlier in the pull - but for some reason it will just knock.
edit - I just looked at the log and i am actually getting 1knocksum from the 4031RPM onwards (hence the drop)
I think I get knock if I go from 3->5 degrees of timing. I know it *should* work, since I was running 4* earlier in the pull - but for some reason it will just knock.
edit - I just looked at the log and i am actually getting 1knocksum from the 4031RPM onwards (hence the drop)
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I dont think 1KS is anything to worry about...
wb is about a year old, never run leaded...
My concern with 11.4 is that if its 1 injector being bad then my actually AFR for that cylinder is a LOT higher than 11.4 because thats the average... its more like 12.1...
I dont think 23psi is a lot either... I will get the plugs gapped to within spec and then retest...
wb is about a year old, never run leaded...
My concern with 11.4 is that if its 1 injector being bad then my actually AFR for that cylinder is a LOT higher than 11.4 because thats the average... its more like 12.1...
I dont think 23psi is a lot either... I will get the plugs gapped to within spec and then retest...
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the reason the timing is low (well I think), is because every time I tried higher I would get big knock... I even changed fuels because of random knock spikes.. (like 7->14->36) at pk tq...
If knock is going up with timing, unfortunately your detonating. Honestly I wouldn't change a thing. You probably can't even feel that slight blip. Is it even consistent for consecutive pulls or just a random anomaly?
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yeah well this is the whole thing.
am I getting knock because 1 injector is being bad???!??
I will regap - and retest, that's assuming reducing the gap to 0.5mm (from 0.6mm) will reduce/stop the blowout..
am I getting knock because 1 injector is being bad???!??
I will regap - and retest, that's assuming reducing the gap to 0.5mm (from 0.6mm) will reduce/stop the blowout..
Honestly I've never had an injector go bad on me. They typically fail at high RPM's and high duty cycles. Not at low RPM with like what 30% duty cycle? Even if they did fail they wouldn't fail for a hundredth of a second. They would just fail. Furthermore the ecu (at least in a DSM, I'd home an Evo is more precise) would throw a P0XXX code. When I was a newb with my DSM an injector clip popped off (due to a service tech breaking the connector for a HG repair for the previous owner). The CEL came on immediately, threw a code, and I had to limp it home. That was all with 1989 technology.
I vote lc1 acting up or plugs need smaller gap I'm currently running .20-.21 to keep spark consistency at around 30psi. Gap does erode with miles on the plugs.
PS I have seen zeitronix logs with weird jumps in AFR also
PS I have seen zeitronix logs with weird jumps in AFR also
Honestly I've never had an injector go bad on me. They typically fail at high RPM's and high duty cycles. Not at low RPM with like what 30% duty cycle? Even if they did fail they wouldn't fail for a hundredth of a second. They would just fail. Furthermore the ecu (at least in a DSM, I'd home an Evo is more precise) would throw a P0XXX code. When I was a newb with my DSM an injector clip popped off (due to a service tech breaking the connector for a HG repair for the previous owner). The CEL came on immediately, threw a code, and I had to limp it home. That was all with 1989 technology.



