The injectors are not compatible with fuels with MTBE in them. You can check the MSDS for any fuel you're unsure about. If it has MTBE in it, it'll be listed in the MSDS and should be available from the manufacturers website. Q16 and VP Import are the only commonly used fuels we've seen that on. We recommend C16 and C23 for really high hp stuff.

 

Tony,

I appreciate the high HP requirements for the ID2000s, but what about those of us sitting in the 450whp pump 93 range? Seems that ID1000's would suffice, but in our case they may be a bit much.

Thanks.

Paul

 

The ID1000 is a better choice for 450whp. There's no benefit in going with the ID2000's over the ID1000's unless you need the additional fuel flow.

 

As long as you are running pump gas. Otherwise you will have to upgrade the FPR and boost up the base fuel pressure. Great for these injectors, bad for the wallet and cleanliness of the engine bay.

 

If Tony and other forums members can come up with a solution for the hard start issue with the ID1000's, these will be the injectors I will be moving to...

 

Is this for ID1000's and ID2000's? The Trick 114 leaded I was running had assloads of MTBE in it!!!!

 

Are you talking internal O-rings? Or just the fuel rail/intake manifold O-rings?

If the later, switching to viton O-rings would probably solve the problem.

 

This only applies to the ID2000's and it's not something that can be fixed. It's not an oring or seal, it's actually the valve of the injector that's affected.

 

You will be able to easily make 450whp on pump with the ID1000's and idle better than stock 550's.

This is a myth partially perpetuated by me. I was one of the first (if not the first) to run the ID1000's in the stock ecu. My car starts fine. A friend joined the in crowd a couple weeks later when he saw how much better my car did at idle/cruise/wot operation than other companies offerings in the same cc/min class. He had the starting issues. It is hit and miss and the problem is with the evo and any aftermarket injector (even some stock injector cars). The ID1000's are fine and warm start just fine. You have just as much chance of warm starting issues on any other brand of injector as these, and once again the problem is the evo. People are still trying to solve it, and some day it will be solved, but for now, you just have to crank it twice when the car has been setting 30 mins after parking it.

Also it is not a hard start issue. They cold start fine and hot start fine. It is the heat soaked warm start that is the issue.

I had cold and warm starting issues on another brand of injector. On the ID1000's my car is fine, go figure.

 

If I am not wrong, ID injectors are high impedance, so how stock ECU will control these injectors? Stock Injectors are low impedance right? will it be save for the stock ECU in the long run?

I am interested at ID 1000cc too ...

 

Any ecu can safely run high impedance injectors. Running low impedance injectors w/o a resistor or driver on an ecu not designed for it is where damage will occur.

In order to run high impedance injectors on a car setup with low impedance injectors and an injector resistor, you simply remove and bypass the injector resistor.

 

how would you actually bypass the resistor on an Evo VIII or IX?

 

A search will give better details than me, but it's a box in the engine bay with wires that you just cut and bypass. Wire strippers and some soldering will do the trick.

 

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...istor-box.html

 

Just received ID2000's for my cornfed 03 Evo 8.

Read the resistor box bypass how to....

going from precision 1200cc's to ID2000s.

Any latency or scaling advice to get me started?