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Old Oct 26, 2010, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by WRC-LVR
I have a 05 MR USDM Evo 8. Rom ID 96940011. I really need to stick with this version rather than 9653XXXX. But I desperately need the decel fuel tables and addresses so I can eliminate the nasty throttle hang at 4000. Already did the clutch switch test, switch is fine.

'Ive asked before in several threads, more than 6 months of asking, been ignored by everyone, but am asking again. Really need the tables for 96940011

Thanks very much

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I did some quick searching and I didn't find anything. However, I'm no expert.
Old Oct 26, 2010, 04:28 PM
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These changes also removed my random clutch in stalls at low RPM, example my drive way is on a hill, so i coast up it at low rpms then clutch in at the top, this usually caused the car to stall, since making these changes though issue resolved
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Originally Posted by WRC-LVR
I have a 05 MR USDM Evo 8. Rom ID 96940011. I really need to stick with this version rather than 9653XXXX. But I desperately need the decel fuel tables and addresses so I can eliminate the nasty throttle hang at 4000. Already did the clutch switch test, switch is fine.

'Ive asked before in several threads, more than 6 months of asking, been ignored by everyone, but am asking again. Really need the tables for 96940011

Thanks very much

Milburn
I have the same car. No one seems to have the decel fuel cut delay addresses. But you can modify the Idle Stepper Lookup table's highest temperature values to that of figure 131 on pg129 of Merlin's tuning guide (Rev 1.7A). It cured 90% of my throttle hang and IMO the hang in between shifts that happens if you don't come completely off the gas as you clutch in. It makes shifts at full throttle/part throttle/any throttle so much smoother.

PM me if you don't have Merlin's guide. It can be hard to find.


EDIT: Link to Merlin's guide. If anyone has a problem with me linking it I can take it down btw.

https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=...thkey=CI2o36YO

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Old Oct 26, 2010, 05:13 PM
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If you guys are sure the tables aren't posted somewhere on this forum, I could probably find them for you. It just matters when I have some free time to take a look.

I think 96940011 was scrapped long ago in favor of 9653, so no one ever looks for new tables in that ROM anymore.
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Originally Posted by l2r99gst
If you guys are sure the tables aren't posted somewhere on this forum, I could probably find them for you. It just matters when I have some free time to take a look.

I think 96940011 was scrapped long ago in favor of 9653, so no one ever looks for new tables in that ROM anymore.
It would help a lot, if you wouldn't mind.

Also how do you go about finding the tables? I'd like to learn if I could.
Old Oct 26, 2010, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by l2r99gst
If you guys are sure the tables aren't posted somewhere on this forum, I could probably find them for you. It just matters when I have some free time to take a look.

I think 96940011 was scrapped long ago in favor of 9653, so no one ever looks for new tables in that ROM anymore.
9653XXXX has issues, including much more prone to throttle hang, many people are going away from it ( Applaud etc see the various threads about the issues including Brian at GST had a few cars with issues ) for various ROMS. Myself Im comfortable with 96940011, just really need to solve the throttle hang. Im sure there are many folks out there who run stock turbo, mild exhaust, flat panel filter, no cams and limit the boost to 23 psi like me, 2005 sold a fair number of cars :-)

Any ways i could pay to have thees tables found. I would want them published so all the 96940011 folks could see this and properly fix the hang. NOT using the big ISCV table,but the decel fuel cut tables ( iknow mrfred is now saying they are not defined properly again )

So who can help ? evo disassem gurus ?

LMK

Thanks
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I have successfully used 9417 on 05 cars that came with 96940011.
Old Oct 27, 2010, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by WRC-LVR
9653XXXX has issues, including much more prone to throttle hang, many people are going away from it ( Applaud etc see the various threads about the issues including Brian at GST had a few cars with issues ) for various ROMS. Myself Im comfortable with 96940011, just really need to solve the throttle hang. Im sure there are many folks out there who run stock turbo, mild exhaust, flat panel filter, no cams and limit the boost to 23 psi like me, 2005 sold a fair number of cars :-)

Any ways i could pay to have thees tables found. I would want them published so all the 96940011 folks could see this and properly fix the hang. NOT using the big ISCV table,but the decel fuel cut tables ( iknow mrfred is now saying they are not defined properly again )

So who can help ? evo disassem gurus ?

LMK

Thanks
I have an 05 and I'm running 9653. I have 0 issues. It just takes some time and the proper adjustments, but the ROM can run fine.

Also, as boosted tuning mentioned, you can use 9417 as well.

But, like I said, if I can find some time, I will try to find the tables. I can't promise anything just yet, as I am very busy, but I'll see what I can do.

To answer the question about how to find tables, you need IDA Pro to disassemble the ROM and look at the code.
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OK, I went through 96940011 today to look for all of the ISCV tables that I had defined in 9653, that mrfred orignally found in 8859.

I'm not sure if they are all 100% correct, but I will post up what I found in the ISCV thread later tonight. Just finishing up on some of the axes...I'm not certain on some of those as well, but anyone using 9694 that wants these tables can test.
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Originally Posted by l2r99gst
OK, I went through 96940011 today to look for all of the ISCV tables that I had defined in 9653, that mrfred orignally found in 8859.

I'm not sure if they are all 100% correct, but I will post up what I found in the ISCV thread later tonight. Just finishing up on some of the axes...I'm not certain on some of those as well, but anyone using 9694 that wants these tables can test.

l2r99gst, My sincere thanks for working on this. I'll be happy to try this out, possibly as soon as this weekend if I can get my Tactrix cable back from being loaned out.. my email is memer02@comcast.net, you can send attachments there easily

Please pm me with some contact info ie regular mailing address etc so I can send better appreciation :-)

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I have posted the 96940011 tables here.

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Old Oct 29, 2010, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by WRC-LVR
Already did the clutch switch test, switch is fine.
Milburn
what, what what ?
what is this clutch switch test ? never heard about it ! I have the 88580714 and horrible throttle hang no solution this far and I have weird things happening when I press the clutch.

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Old Oct 30, 2010, 09:55 AM
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So basically there is no "fix" for USDM IX's with throttle hang?

Someone mentioned "notching " the timing tables what does that mean?
Old Nov 1, 2010, 07:54 PM
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FWIW: my car seems to drive better WITH throttle hang (no more jerking while driving through parking lots, and the start up seems to be better), but it's just annoying to hear. example: if i rev to 2500RPM, the car continues to rev to 2700RPM when i push in the clutch. each gear revs up about 200RPM from the point i push in the clutch. it's.. just.. weird. LOL
Jay @ Boosted Tuning fixed it 'til we went to the V7 ROM. i dunno what the difference is between 5 and 7, but we seem to have trouble getting rid of the hang and still being able to start my car in the morning. LOL.
i'd almost give up the smooth start up for no throttle hang.. but it's embarrassing when people see my car not wanna start. LOL
i need to get 'er running again so we can figure it out.
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Originally Posted by kaj
FWIW: my car seems to drive better WITH throttle hang (no more jerking while driving through parking lots, and the start up seems to be better), but it's just annoying to hear. example: if i rev to 2500RPM, the car continues to rev to 2700RPM when i push in the clutch. each gear revs up about 200RPM from the point i push in the clutch. it's.. just.. weird. LOL
Jay @ Boosted Tuning fixed it 'til we went to the V7 ROM. i dunno what the difference is between 5 and 7, but we seem to have trouble getting rid of the hang and still being able to start my car in the morning. LOL.
i'd almost give up the smooth start up for no throttle hang.. but it's embarrassing when people see my car not wanna start. LOL
i need to get 'er running again so we can figure it out.
The +200 RPM thing is exactly what my car does! Seriously no fix for this?


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