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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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I anticipated some degree of discrepancy, but I wasn't expecting the margin of error to be as vast as what I've witnessed. Anyway, it seems that load values are apparently incomparable except between consecutive logs with the same vehicle. I think that about concludes any questions I had on the topic.
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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I noticed that the "screw" on the bottom of the MAF will allow more air to bypass the sensors in the MAF. Thus, the AirFlow Hz will go lower.

I tested this when I was having issues with installing an HKS Suction intake.

I have since left the "screw" set to have the inside flush and all the way open. I noticed that my load values are not as high as those with similar mods.
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I am trying to reconcile the maf scaling (or other way to adjust MAF with an open filter with non-stock intake pipe) for my Helix intake kit. This system was a clone of the HKS intake pipe with a pretty large filter. The reason I went for it was I did not like the foam filter on the HKS Racing Suction system. Plus it was much cheaper...As a point of reference did you adjust anything else in the MAF settings other than the screw mentioned above. If so what were they? I realize that mine may not match exactly.
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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I believe this is on topic...

I found my current tune to be pig rich. It was blamed on a boost leak. The boost leaks were fixed so now the culprit turned out to be too much meth being injected. I have now begun tuning the car my self and pulling out fuel. I have notice that as I lean it out toward 12.0 afr from 10.0 afr there is not much change in load. I just though that it was strange. I figured leaning it out make more HP and increase 2byte load.
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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If your mass airflow isn't changing your load shouldn't change. You can increase your HP by leaning out at the same mass airflow. So, I think it makes sense.
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by l2r99gst
If your mass airflow isn't changing your load shouldn't change. You can increase your HP by leaning out at the same mass airflow. So, I think it makes sense.
That makes me feel better then.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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Does anyone have all (raw, baro comp, baro&temp comp) the addys for 94170015??
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo_Kid
Does anyone have all (raw, baro comp, baro&temp comp) the addys for 94170015??
It's all MUT table, I use modified MUT table request addresses but the values should be something like-

6B42 and 6B43

and

6B46 and 6B47

I'll have to look for a V99 if I have one for the exact answer on which is which.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
It's all MUT table, I use modified MUT table request addresses but the values should be something like-

6B42 and 6B43

and

6B46 and 6B47

I'll have to look for a V99 if I have one for the exact answer on which is which.
That is for 8859. Please re-read my post.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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brainfart on my end.

I havent bothered logging them as variables since v99 was fashionable-

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...-data-xml.html

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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 10:57 PM
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6b48 / 6b49 is load + baro + temp

6b42 / 6b43 is Raw load

6b46 / 6b47 is load + baro

I will derive them but it shouldnt be too complicated. IF 895c / 895d are load+baro+temp I believe that 895a / 895b should be load+baro and then 8956 / 8957 should be Raw load if the pattern holds.


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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 04:04 AM
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^I believe that in 94170015 895C is RAW as this is the value that mrfred indicated to change for Variable for Boost Control. Stock value is 8962. 895C is also is the value I change to in MUT00 to log 2byte load. Stock MUT00 was 888F

I'd also like to know which is load+baro+temp to use that as variable for boost control.

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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
8859

6b48 / 6b49 is load + baro + temp

6b42 / 6b43 is Raw load

6b46 / 6b47 is load + baro

I will derive them but it shouldnt be too complicated. IF 895c / 895d are load+baro+temp I believe that 895a / 895b should be load+baro and then 8956 / 8957 should be Raw load if the pattern holds.

Originally Posted by Jorge T
^I believe that in 94170015 895C is RAW as this is the value that mrfred indicated to change for Variable for Boost Control. Stock value is 8962. 895C is also is the value I change to in MUT00 to log 2byte load. Stock MUT00 was 888F

I'd also like to know which is load+baro+temp to use that as variable for boost control.
I have all the adddys to all the Load variables in 9417. Ill post them up later today.
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
The uncompensated load calc from MAF signal has no factors that are user adjustable. As other people said, baro and air temp-compensated loads are calced. Baro+airtemp compensated load can be 10-15% lower than uncompensated load in warm air especially if an exposed element filter is being used and the engine is sucking in lots of hot engine bay air. Seems to me that this along with some efficiency factors could be enough to explain your comparison.
So when the MAF see hot temp the 1byte load can be higher ? But the load what the fuel and ignition table useing is lower because compensated with Baro+air temp ?
In the V7 rom fuel cut table applying under the 1byte load ?
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by VGergo
So when the MAF see hot temp the 1byte load can be higher ? But the load what the fuel and ignition table useing is lower because compensated with Baro+air temp ?
In the V7 rom fuel cut table applying under the 1byte load ?
bump for answer please, what load useing the V7 rom for the Fuel and Ignition table ? 2byte compensated too ?
In the SD rom is it possible to see real boost pressure instead of the load values ?
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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Airflow/Hz Baro and Air Temp Compensation doesnt affect on WOT because over 201 Hz everywhere is 1.00 in the table ?

But what the Relative Air Density vs Temp for Airflow/Hz table doing ? How the air temp is raising the it will multiply the mafscaling and will change the afr and maybe the load value a bit?
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