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Old May 18, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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do i have to add those patches if im using tephra mod v7 option 3 for a usdm evo ix or are they alredy included?
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Old May 18, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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MrFreds stuff is TempScaleFuel. The mat patch is TempScaleFuel, even the code 1.8*x-40 is for Celcius.

I do see the TempScale for JCSBanks patch. My guess would be it should work either way as long as both match you can use either one. And for logging purposes you would log for Fahrenheit 1.8*x+32 vs 1.8*x-40
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Old May 18, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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they are the standard values in the 9563xxx6v7 roms that I down loaded from the v7 thread
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Old May 18, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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JCSBanks wrote his for Fahrenheit that's why the values are much higher. 94170015_MY03_Evo8_JCSBSD3M3 ROM is set at TempScale(Fahrenheit). These are the values:
Code:
260.6
260.6
260.6
260.6
253.4
246.2
240.8
235.4
230
226.4
221
217.4
213.8
210.2
206.6
203
199.4
197.6
194
192.2
190.4
186.8
185
183.2
181.4
177.8
176
174.2
172.4
170.6
168.8
167
165.2
163.4
161.6
159.8
158
156.2
154.4
152.6
150.8
149
147.2
145.4
143.6
141.8
140
138.2
136.4
134.6
132.8
131
129.2
127.4
125.6
123.8
122
120.2
118.4
116.6
114.8
113
111.2
109.4
107.6
105.8
104
102.2
100.4
98.6
96.8
95
93.2
91.4
89.6
87.8
86
84.2
82.4
80.6
78.8
77
75.2
73.4
71.6
69.8
68
66.2
64.4
62.6
60.8
59
57.2
55.4
53.6
51.8
50
48.2
46.4
44.6
42.8
41
39.2
37.4
35.6
33.8
32
30.2
28.4
26.6
24.8
23
21.2
19.4
17.6
15.8
14
12.2
10.4
8.6
6.8
5
3.2
1.4
-0.4
-2.2
-4
-5.8
-7.6
-9.4
-11.2
-13
-16.6
-20.2
-22
-25.6
-29.2
-34.6
-40
MrFred wrote his patches based on TempScaleFuel Scaling(Celcius):
Code:
150
146
142
139
136
132
126
122
117
113
109
106
103
100
97
94
91
88
85
82
79
77
75
73
71
69
67
65
63
61
59
58
57
56
55
54
53
52
51
50
49
48
47
46
45
44
43
42
41
40
39
38
37
36
35
34
33
32
31
30
29
28
27
26
25
24
23
22
21
20
19
18
17
16
15
14
13
12
11
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1
0
-1
-2
-3
-4
-5
-6
-7
-8
-9
-10
-11
-12
-13
-14
-15
-16
-17
-18
-19
-20
-21
-22
-23
-25
-27
-29
-31
-33
-35
-37
-39
So You should probably change yours to TempScaleFuel so it matches.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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but all the xml definitions for the v7 roms are based on tempscale, I'm guessing this is right otherwise all the defs are wrong???? what effect will changing the int8 to int16 as the data size is doubling? wont the over write something else?
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Old May 18, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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The XML for the 941715 V7 SD rom is wrong. I corrected It with help from tephra and appauld. The mat patch was wrong as well as a couple other things.

I tried changing it to 16 but it through off the temp scaling values.

Also, why would the max Fahrenheit value be 150? It would/should be higher like what comes in JCSbanks ROM
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Old May 18, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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is the same error in the 95631706 rom and my values are in celsuis, do you have the information regarding the corrections? does this only apply to the 941715 roms?
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Old May 18, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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Yes. Just that 941715 rom in specific.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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Bottom of this link page is where he got his scalings from, for celcius.

http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/pro...roducts_id/400
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Old May 18, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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i tried changing the tempscale to tempscalefuel and then updated the values and it corrupted the left hand column...
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Old May 18, 2010 | 01:11 PM
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I know. I just copied over it with correct voltage values. If you go from TempScaleFuel > TempScale it will do the same thing but on the scalings side.

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Old May 18, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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Also is there an easy way of testign to see if my read values are what the temperature actual is appart from taking the sensor out and putting it open air and measuring various air sources (ie hair dryer etc)?

Thanks
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testing the resistance with a simple volt meter is straight forward. Use the chart in link I provide to check the sensor.
Attached Thumbnails GM IAT (MAT) all over the place.. 200.. -8 F-photo-2-.jpg  

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Old May 19, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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i've sorted out the tanles now to be the 16bit values, now when I log the MAT in evoscan is give me 58deg C (x-40) loging 88e5 and the IAT value give me 34 degC (x) logging 88e5 also. I'll get the meter on it tomorrow to measure the resistance to work out what it is saying the voltage is any other ideas why the big difference?

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Old May 19, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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You changed it from int8 >int16 for the SD table voltage?

One may be a raw value and the other may have a formula added to it.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 12:29 AM
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hi yeah i've converted them to the int16 now, they both access the same address of 88e5, do you know which value that car will use for the air temperature? Also is this related to using the MAF temp input and not a seperate ADC? do I need the scaling routine?
Do you want me to send you my rom to see if i've missed something silly?

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