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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by evodomUA
Do you mean

Ignition Trim vs Air Temp Above Load?
RPM - 500 1000 1500 2000 2500 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000
% - 70.625 70.625 70.625 70.625 80 80 100 100 100 100

Do you zeroed %?

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It looks like I have the same issue
Ignition Timing Vs Air Temp

I zeroed all but the last two. Hope this helps.
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JorgeYaHeard
Ignition Timing Vs Air Temp

I zeroed all but the last two. Hope this helps.
you mean "ignition trim vs air temp" ?

just to double check, you zeroed out all except 77 & 82 c cells ?

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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 05:34 AM
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I actually had a timing anomaly last night. It would log 400load but it clearly using the 360load column. I had 1byte load set to 2.0 as well as evoscan. I was slowly bringing boost up, hence the need for a 2.0 1byte setting at the time. All timing trims were set to zero during tuning too.

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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 05:35 AM
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Yes that's the one. I zero everything out while I'm tuning then re-populate the table. Depending on what the weather was like when you tuned you might not have the same cells with the "0" value.
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by stunt2
you mean "ignition trim vs air temp" ?
Yes that's the one, and I was looked right at it before I posted it. My bad.
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 08:23 AM
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is it safe to run all the time with that table zeroed ?
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 08:40 AM
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by stunt2
is it safe to run all the time with that table zeroed ?
Yes, but I put them to zero and then changed the last two to -1 and -2 at Fast_Freddies advice.
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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In Florida, if you don't play with these tables, it will throw your timing map off big time... then just as you think you have it figured out, it is cold out and now your timing is 3* higher than it usually is...
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 03:14 PM
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Well that's good to know to 0 them all out.
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Old May 14, 2013 | 10:48 PM
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I have a question.

a value of 5 in the hi octane ignition table represents spark is being fired 5 degree BTDC ?

a value of 0 in the same table represents ?

a value of -10 in the same table represents ?

or +ve is just taken as advance and -ve is just taken as retarded timing ?
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Old May 15, 2013 | 05:41 AM
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My guess would be 0 is TDC, and -10 would be 10* ATDC.
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Old May 15, 2013 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Broke4speed
My guess would be 0 is TDC, and -10 would be 10* ATDC.
The spark plug firing ATDC is not possible because it takes a little bit of time for the air fuel mixture to burn, so if you fire the spark plug ATDC the piston is already going down , most of the energy will be lost + knock too.

Some one can clear this out ?
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Old May 16, 2013 | 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mines5
The spark plug firing ATDC is not possible because it takes a little bit of time for the air fuel mixture to burn, so if you fire the spark plug ATDC the piston is already going down , most of the energy will be lost + knock too.

Some one can clear this out ?
Yes -10* is ATDC, retarding the ignition timing like this is generally used in launch maps for spooling turbos.

0* is TDC
10* is BTDC
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Old May 16, 2013 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mines5
The spark plug firing ATDC is not possible because it takes a little bit of time for the air fuel mixture to burn, so if you fire the spark plug ATDC the piston is already going down , most of the energy will be lost + knock too.

Some one can clear this out ?
Uh...the spark can fire as long as there is unburned mixture in the cylinder. Position of the piston is irrelevant. Firing ATDC is not efficient, but it happens all the same. Not to mention that the map can't run in one manner, then randomly switch function as it crosses certain cells.
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