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Old May 26, 2013 | 08:34 AM
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Can not richen AFR

Hi everyone. The car is Evo 9 JDM. Rom id is 88570008 with Tephra 5.1.

Everything works well except that AFR does not follow what defined in the high/low octane fuel map. This happens to the alternate map as well.

I tested by putting 7.4 to every load/rpm cell and the car idle like crap. This means that I am modifying the right table/address.

However, when tuning the car with some boost, the AFR does not go down. I also tested by putting everything starting from load 100 - 200 to 7.4 but the actual AFR (reading from MTX1) was some where in 13s.

What i found out is that when I logged the target AFR (AFRMAP) from evoscan, the target is something in 12s which i supposed to see 7.4 as my map is all set to such number.

Any idea where else to check? Attached is the bin file. Please help..
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Old May 26, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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I'm no pro but you should log your injector duty cycle. Either your maxing out your injectors or your pump.
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Old May 26, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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Thanks for input. Duty cycle are somewhere around 50s. Pump are brand new Sard 280 cc/min and fuel pressure are all okay.
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Old May 26, 2013 | 07:20 PM
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fuel pump not going into hi-speed mode, relay fault.
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Old May 26, 2013 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by merlin.oz
fuel pump not going into hi-speed mode, relay fault.
Are injector scaling and latency tuninng required? Everything in the car is stock I.e injector, turbo and cam.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 07:29 AM
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I would trust what merlin says

Did you have that problem before upgrading the fuel pump ? if you still have the stock one, I know it's a hassle but put it back
unless you plan on running bio-ethanol or 400+hp it's good enough

I don't know how it works on MAP equipped cars but on an EDM you have to re-scale the MAF to approach a 1:1 realafr/afrmap
values are completely different (richer) by default, ex : afrmap 11.5 realafr 10.3 even with no problems on the car, on a stock ecu you're constantly in the 9s they run very rich stock ><

p.s.
injector duty cycle should be moved down in the list and logged below pulse width for the calculation to work in evoscan I believe, it's definitely true if you use openport 2.0 autolog on sdcard, if you don't you end up with zeroes like on your picture

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