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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 08:55 AM
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try higher octane on same map-

report back-

also-

pressure test after cam install? just to be sure?
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 09:32 AM
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Maybe this is a bit of a dumb question, but have you done anything to rule out an issue with the knock sensor itself?
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRD
try higher octane on same map-

report back-

also-

pressure test after cam install? just to be sure?
Will definitely do both tests. Thanks

Originally Posted by thebluesky
Maybe this is a bit of a dumb question, but have you done anything to rule out an issue with the knock sensor itself?
I didn't touch to anything physically. But it might be a good idea to log knock voltage to see if it's overall engine noise raising or a real knock spike.
Added to my to do list
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 10:55 AM
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3" exhaust will definately help too.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 01:22 PM
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Will definitely do both tests. Thanks



I didn't touch to anything physically. But it might be a good idea to log knock voltage to see if it's overall engine noise raising or a real knock spike.
Added to my to do list
I just went through an issue of this recently and figured out my wiring had been somehow nicked pretty good.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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^^ this
and also check the sensor itself isn't loose
+ check if timing marks are aligned correctly
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by stunt2
^^ this
and also check the sensor itself isn't loose
+ check if timing marks are aligned correctly
For timing marks I checked them (both cams and crank) and they were right. For knock sensor I'll check but it is not something that been touched.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 04:06 PM
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It might be early, but any luck with the octane? That will tell you a lot about if the issue could be poor timing curve/fuel curve/or just poor fuel altogether.

What does your knock log look like?

001122334433221100

or

2 1 3 5 0 0 2 1 0 4 etc.

With a 35R on 91 octane, 24PSI, GSC 272's, HFC, Apexi Noir CBE, I was counting up to 10 degrees up top at 7500 to not trip the knock light with OEM knock settings. Power level sucked. Hopefully the exhaust and cat-delete will help out some too.

Just post the darn log! Just kidding. Good luck.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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Here are some of the knock events, that were still happening with timing not very agressive. Knock happens as soon as the ECU ignite at 8* at about 6100RPM (which is low advance). I'm now 21psi at 6000 rpm and this is not happening anymore. But this is counterproductive to me: the car isn't nearly faster as I expect it from new cams.








I tried running less timing (6*) with same boost (24psi flat) and it still knocked pretty bad:






Anyway, like I said 10 times, I expect the car to take more timing with a new exhaust.

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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 11:31 PM
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Log knock voltage and post back up. What are your knock sensor settings set at? Can you post a screen shot or are they stock?

Are all these pulls done on the same tank of 91 oct? It seems like bad gas.
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by PureDrivePerformance
Log knock voltage and post back up. What are your knock sensor settings set at? Can you post a screen shot or are they stock?

Are all these pulls done on the same tank of 91 oct? It seems like bad gas.
That or a persistent/odd harmonics that takes place at 6K consistently.
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PureDrivePerformance
Log knock voltage and post back up. What are your knock sensor settings set at? Can you post a screen shot or are they stock?

Are all these pulls done on the same tank of 91 oct? It seems like bad gas.
Like I said I plan to log knock sensor voltage.
Knock setting (filters, multipliers) are stock.
They're made from 2 different tanks of 91, but they come from the same place. Good idea I'll try to fill the car at a different brand/station.

Originally Posted by evoredy
That or a persistent/odd harmonics that takes place at 6K consistently.
Yes looks odd, always at the same RPM.
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 01:23 AM
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I think this is normal for 91oct, I checked a 91 tune that I made a few years ago, timing was around 5 @ 6000/260. that car had a gt3037 turbo & 272cams.

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