Intake Manifold Test
Jan 26, 2009, 05:06 PM
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Intake Manifold Test
I saw this thread on another board and thought it was interesting given the all the recent debate over intake manifolds. Apparently, someone took the initiative to dyno test the original design and the current design to show results over the OE.
Intake Manifold Test
Quite impressive work, in my opinion.
Intake Manifold Test
Quite impressive work, in my opinion.
Jan 27, 2009, 08:38 AM
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I think this shows why the Wilson V2 works so well. Wilson Manifolds doesn't just throw a die grinder in someone's hands that just learned what a die grinder is, then expect them to get results. Porting the stock manifold is an art and not just anyone can do it. The V2 has been on the dyno and proven it's results not just in dyno numbers, but track numbers. If a recommendation of staying with the stock manifold was good for overall performance reasons, imagine the difference if it's been modified by professionals who do it for a living.
Good read.
Good read.
Jan 27, 2009, 05:53 PM
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I think this shows why the Wilson V2 works so well. Wilson Manifolds doesn't just throw a die grinder in someone's hands that just learned what a die grinder is, then expect them to get results. Porting the stock manifold is an art and not just anyone can do it. The V2 has been on the dyno and proven it's results not just in dyno numbers, but track numbers. If a recommendation of staying with the stock manifold was good for overall performance reasons, imagine the difference if it's been modified by professionals who do it for a living.
Good read.
Good read.
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Jan 27, 2009, 05:57 PM
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Do we have any dyno results of the wilson yet? Last thread I saw it was a whole bunch of people hyping it and no dyno results yet LOL. Like I said, the mustang must need a recalibration or the intake air sensor for the dyno must need a bracket made up so that it can be mounted over the exhaust manifold for the "baseline" and then free air for the "enter brand x part here". LOL@!
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Jan 27, 2009, 06:52 PM
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How about copying and pasting the thread over here. I can't register as I don't have a valid "referrer" to read it.
dan l, your comments are hilarious..............not.
Yes, there has been dyno testing of the Wilson. Yes, Wilson changes the runner length, plenum volume and runner taper, actually.
My street car ran 9.04 at 159.6 on it, with a HTA35. Need more proof? Tom's car ran 9.2 on it's 2nd pass. Need more proof, Mike ran 8.98.
fast_freddie, NO intake I have tested performs better than the stock one under about 5500 rpm.
dan l, your comments are hilarious..............not.
Yes, there has been dyno testing of the Wilson. Yes, Wilson changes the runner length, plenum volume and runner taper, actually.
My street car ran 9.04 at 159.6 on it, with a HTA35. Need more proof? Tom's car ran 9.2 on it's 2nd pass. Need more proof, Mike ran 8.98.
fast_freddie, NO intake I have tested performs better than the stock one under about 5500 rpm.
Jan 27, 2009, 10:17 PM
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How about copying and pasting the thread over here. I can't register as I don't have a valid "referrer" to read it.
dan l, your comments are hilarious..............not.
Yes, there has been dyno testing of the Wilson. Yes, Wilson changes the runner length, plenum volume and runner taper, actually.
My street car ran 9.04 at 159.6 on it, with a HTA35. Need more proof? Tom's car ran 9.2 on it's 2nd pass. Need more proof, Mike ran 8.98.
fast_freddie, NO intake I have tested performs better than the stock one under about 5500 rpm.
dan l, your comments are hilarious..............not.
Yes, there has been dyno testing of the Wilson. Yes, Wilson changes the runner length, plenum volume and runner taper, actually.
My street car ran 9.04 at 159.6 on it, with a HTA35. Need more proof? Tom's car ran 9.2 on it's 2nd pass. Need more proof, Mike ran 8.98.
fast_freddie, NO intake I have tested performs better than the stock one under about 5500 rpm.
And one quick question, when are you ever under 5500 rpm on the drag strip?
Jan 27, 2009, 10:35 PM
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OK, I have to make this comment. Ive been stewing on this for a while now. Ever since Buschur did his intake manifold testing thread. I even PM'd David before making this post to make sure I had my facts straight about his test before making my comments. Take them for what you will, but here are my thoughts....
Given you want the most bang for the buck, and given your car makes "the norm" for a modified Evo.... I mean if youre considering an intake manifold then the car is likely doing 550-650 right? Then, why wouldn't you just run the ported stock manifold and Buschurs 65mm throttle body? Lets look at what all these testing threads have covered....
Again, this is my opinion. Im sure the flames are going to come in harder than a queer bar's apple martini happy hour but its just my take on how I make buying decisions.
rgds,
-bill
Given you want the most bang for the buck, and given your car makes "the norm" for a modified Evo.... I mean if youre considering an intake manifold then the car is likely doing 550-650 right? Then, why wouldn't you just run the ported stock manifold and Buschurs 65mm throttle body? Lets look at what all these testing threads have covered....
- ported stock manifold + 65mm OE TB yields on average 15+hp with no sacrifices
- most of your popular aftermarket manifolds (VSR, Magnus V5, DI) yield 25-35hp but really only from ~6500+rpm.
- the popular wilson V2 was demonstrated by mr. buschur himself in another thread to perform damn near right inline with the DI manifold, yet it costs $600 more than a DI manifold. Granted it doesnt have any low end sacrifices, so keep that in mind. To some that will be worth $600, to others it may not.
Again, this is my opinion. Im sure the flames are going to come in harder than a queer bar's apple martini happy hour but its just my take on how I make buying decisions.
rgds,
-bill
Jan 27, 2009, 10:38 PM
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in a 365 day year how many times is the car at the drag strip? If its like most guys cars on this forum the car is daily driven seeing the track just every once in a while.
Jan 27, 2009, 10:41 PM
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Bill,
I think what you have to say is a valid point. But remember that most of the folks who buy intake manifolds are looking for more horsepower. Obviously, there are different methods of achieving horsepower and a intake manifold is only one part of the equation. However, I think that if you are looking to extract the maximum amount of power from your setup at some point, the stock intake manifold is a restriction. At that point, I THINK the money is moot and the desire becomes to move past the restriction to gain horsepower.
Just my 3 pennies.
I think what you have to say is a valid point. But remember that most of the folks who buy intake manifolds are looking for more horsepower. Obviously, there are different methods of achieving horsepower and a intake manifold is only one part of the equation. However, I think that if you are looking to extract the maximum amount of power from your setup at some point, the stock intake manifold is a restriction. At that point, I THINK the money is moot and the desire becomes to move past the restriction to gain horsepower.
Just my 3 pennies.