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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Nice to know.. I was going 2.3 but they seem to have a lot of problems over time.
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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It seems like a good plan for power but, hows the reliability? Can i make great power and still be able to drive once and a while on the street?
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
Pretty inline with what others are making on this dyno with the BBK on "decent" builds without porting other than the turbo.

On the real well thought-out builds and with more porting, etc the strongest I have seen so far is 367whp on 91 oct, and average is 34X-35Xwhp
Damn, no wonder you guys are so insane about E85 out there. My car made 375whp on BP92 w/o too much tuning, and a best of 388whp. These are Dyno Dynamics numbers but pretty close still.

Thx for the sweet review, almost makes me want to do the bottom-end....
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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Damn, no wonder you guys are so insane about E85 out there.
yeah man, **** 91 oct. FTL
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by McLaren F1 2003
yeah man, **** 91 oct. FTL
+2 91 sucks ***. E85 ftw.
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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E85 has me at 385 on DLL...probably 10 hp less on a mustang and 10 HP more on dynojet (so i've been told)
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by EE
More air
At 24.5 psi a 2.3L engine is "consuming" about 15% more air than a 2.0L engine at same boost level. The turbo is spinning faster to achieve 24.5 psi on a 2.3L too. That's why i thnk the better comparison would have been "same air flow" instead of "same boost". The 2.3L would still have made more power as it will use less boost to achieve the same air flow which will enable it to run more timing on knock limitted fuel
Doh!

Yep the added displacement seems like the only answer. That said, I don't get why peak boost didn't come in a lot sooner. So very strange.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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94AWD coupe said this is a good idea, if the tranny can handle the torque. I know the MR 6 speed is not as beefy as the 5 speed. Any thoughts on the effect of the 2.3 on the 6 speed? I am guessing road race applications with the 2.3 would put the most stress on the 6. Anyone running a 2.3 with a 6 have any info?
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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Great comparison! Thanks for taking the time to post it up!
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by crcain
Doh!

Yep the added displacement seems like the only answer. That said, I don't get why peak boost didn't come in a lot sooner. So very strange.

That's true. Typically between 300 and 500 rpm sooner peak boost when switching from 2.0 to 2.3

A boost plot would help, but from the torque graph it seems to achieve peak boost at exactly the same rpm, so very strange
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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I guess the real question that needs to be asked is..

What is the new compression ratio vs. the old one. I bet it's higher.
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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Nice powa on 91 octane. lets see it on e85...
I tuned it on E85 yesterday, almost 100wtq gains.

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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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nice! is this still using the stock boost solenoid with just a boost pill? you have a boost plot?
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 11:47 PM
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How much faster did the 2.3L hit full boost compared to the 2.0? (as in RPM's)
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
I tuned it on E85 yesterday, almost 100wtq gains.

Amazing. E85 often quoted as best single mod you can do. thats about 468/497tq dynojet. but owner has big smile on his face now.
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