Mario, I took the log file you sent me, ran it through DLL and VRD using Average Mustang and Dynojet settings for comparison:

YOUR DLL 540/421 lower numbers in this graph were the hks 272 and arc air intake box before the cone filter and kelfod 280 cams





YOUR VDR DYNOJET average 606/448



YOUR VDR MUSTANG average 535/396

 

DLL is a poor representation of accurate numbers. Evom should not allow them in the Evo Dyno section, period as it is not a dynamometer reading.

 

Negative ,
99% of people Knows that isn't so Accurate ...

The DLL is To compare ur Last #'s V/s New #'s On same DLL , Dynojet or Mustang ...
and im pretty sure U know that ... So why to offend the DLL ??

 

Here's my own car on the street using DLL vs 2 hours later in warmer weather on a dynojet:

Mellon Tuning EVO DLL Kansas street 38psi 673/524





Mellon Tuning EVO Kansas Dynojet 705/541





Mellon Tuning EVO Kansas street 38psi VDR 715/550

 

Thx Mellon ...

 

the only reason you're saying that is because you want to stop me from posting results and gaining business. You weren't saying this until you got a Dyno yourself, how ironic that you weren't complaining before then. Furthermore you're the one who got laughed off EVOM by the other Mustang dyno owners for posting inflated "record breaking" Mustang DYNO numbers so don't even start with me

 

Lets not get this locked guys. I hope we can have a civil discussion about these numbers. I still hope at some point we can determine which dyno has the most accurate representation of whp for a vehicle.

 

+ 1

 

It has nothing to do with you or business. Out of the top factory ECU cars in the world 139+mph, ours is the only one that has not blown up the engine like yours did.

Laughed off? Our car did 710whp @ 1.00 no WCF and trapped 144mph.

Your car trapped 136-137 with one 139mph and then blew up with 705-710whp DJ.

We have never posted inflated numbers however we do have weather correction option that we have been using for some time. Both WCF and 1.00% CF are recorded on a Mustang Dyno when using wcf so we can always reference raw 1.00% and WCF.

There was no DLL before we had our Mustang Dyno AWD and even if there was, we would not be using it because it is not a true representation of power, it has no torque cell to measure whp and it is illegal to tune a vehicle on a public street or roadway.

 

my car has been to the track twice on the latest setup and both times I was only able to make 3-4 passes because it's entirely too overcrowded here:

DLL showed 600awhp and it went 10.41 @ 135 on straight 93 octane powershifting
DLL showed 700awhp and it went 10.45 @ 139.8 on e85 spinning and bouncing lifting to shift because traction was a joke.

I don't think that's too bad for a full weight evo with only a few tries using the stock ecu and stock mas (not speed density or gm maf)

true I cracked a wrist pin after quite some time of daily driving it at 700+awhp and giving it hell multiple times a day. I've made no secret of it, in fact I posted that in my own build thread a long time ago right after it happened for anyone who's interest to read. Unlike most other shops I don't hide the truth about my setup or any setbacks to my customers or evom in general. I've always disliked the way shops hide thier setbacks from the public so I don't do that. Buschur has made revisions to the wrist pin design to keep that from happening. Lucky for me I noticed a scraping noise and shut it down before there was any serious damage. The cylinder will need to be honed most likely, not a big deal.

 

First there has been numerous comparison between VDR and real dynojets and the result are that VDR always reads within 2-3% of an actual dynojet.

Id say that pretty accurate.

 

from my experience on my car, VDR with evoM mode was within 2-4whp off of the dynojet i was tuned on when i checked them back to back.

 

anyone kind enuff to share links to the official sites of DLL and VDR?

 

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...simulator.html

http://www.dataloglab.com/

 

No dyno chart REALLY matters unless you have a baseline comparison. A Dyno is simply a tool for tuning and representing the powerband. Numbers are arbitrary, especially peak numbers.