...which is what we ran.

 

AEM Driver box wouldn't help? Did you guys try them with E-85?

 

What if you run stock ecu what driver do you need for the Moran to idle well?

 

No such thing as idle well on anything less than a HUGE motor.

 

These are idling the same as my FIC 2150cc in this video.

 

These are idling the same as my FIC 2150cc in this video.

 

On the stock resistor pack no chance but dedicated peak n hold driver with 2900cc injector def will make a difference.

 

Injector Driver—An electronic circuit that supplies voltage pulses to an electromagnetic fuel injector for a precise increment of time and at a given repetition rate. The accuracy of these pulses and their repetition is
normally ±0.001 ms. The peak-hold driver and the saturated driver are most commonly used by the industry for vehicle applications.

PEAK-HOLD DRIVER—A driver that uses two levels of current to operate the injector. The driver circuit applies battery voltage to the injector until a predetermined current level is reached. The current is then reduced and held at a lower level for the duration of the PW. This type of driver is normally used with injectors having low resistance coils (typically around 2 ohm). The accuracy of the driver peak current level (Ip) and the hold current level (Ih) is held to ±0.50%.

Advantages—The high peak current minimizes OT response and the low hold current minimizes CT response. This method of control results in an increased linear range of injector operation.

Disadvantages—Heat is primarily dissipated at the driver. Circuitry is more complex than that of the saturated driver.


SATURATED DRIVER—A power transistor driver that turns fully on for the entire duration of the injector PW. This type of driver is used with injectors having high resistance coils (typically 12 to 16 ohm) or with
injectors having low resistance coils in combination with a ballast resistor.

Advantages—Heat is primarily dissipated through the injector or ballast resistor and not at the driver circuit. Circuitry is simplified compared to the peak-hold driver.

Disadvantages—The inherently slower dynamic response of this system decreases the injector’s usable flow range. The Q of an injector used with this type of circuit is more duty cycle sensitive due to heat dissipation considerations. This driver’s inductive suppression, which may be resistance, capacitance or zener, significantly affects the injector’s Qd rates due to variations in the circuit’s current decay rate. This decay results in a change of the injector’s closing time.

 

So since you dont feel that we thought of that on the GTR, please enjoy the awesomely smooth idling 235 lb hr injectors.

 

was the point of video to show how crappy the idle is with big injectors?

 

No it was to show how good they idle. My FICs idle at 1400 rpm in neutral and due to the cams lumpy in gear. Its there on video if they idle at 1400 rpm I'm happy.

 

Getting 2900 or 3000cc or whatever these things are to idle properly on a stock ECU without some kind of help is a fantasy.

I can't stand the fact that many injector companies rate flow in weight over time, when orifice and open time dictate that flow is volume based. We can calculate our own weight to volume, thanks.

 

I had my Morans flowed all within speak. The stock Saturated drivers wont do the trick you need AEM peak n hold driver for these.

 

The set we had in the GTR latency matched within 6%....not 0.6 like is nearly the standard...6%.

 

are 850cc's good for 350-400hp?