First I want to say, this car is not completed yet, but i love sharing stuff so i cant help myself but to post it in here for others to view even with an existing fueling issue still.

The entire goal for this car when building it this time around I had in mind of making it feel as responsive as my old 2.3 and fp black setup. Thats why i opted to the larger 2.4 displacement when going up a step with the turbo. I feel i more then exceeded my goals and my expectations so far.

The only negative thing here is, now that the car is this powerful in tq at such low RPM's it really makes it dangerous. I noticed right away i limited my ability with this car drastically now where i can and cant floor it, which really sucks.

but enough of the talk most of you don't read it anyways.

It is important you do read this however: This car has a current ongoing fueling issue. More on that is shown here https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/al...ntinued-7.html

Before the system clogged up again fully I got some decent pulls out of the car that i feel really show its potential so i want to show you guys so far what ive produced.

Car is still running break in SAE 30 brad penn oil as well.

TSComp 2.4LSR (Manley 28lb Billet SLW crank, turbo tuff rods, wiseco 9.7:1 hd pistons)
TSComp Cyl Head (Buschur port, polish, oring)(625+ ARP studs)
Buschur FF turbokit (PTE 6466 .82 AR vband / Tial 44mm WG)
Buschur Race FMIC
Buschur double pumper /w -8 AN Goodridge 910 kevlar teflon feedline
Stock feedline as return & Fuelab inline fuel filter
AMS Rail /w FIC 2150cc inj
GSC S3 cams
MAP rev3 intake mani + Fullblown 70mm
ETS upper ic piping /w Tial Q bov
Cobb 3" TBE /w BR vband downpipe
Shep ultimate ratio trans /w 4.11 FD
DSS carbon fiber driveshaft
Tephra v7 SD /w mbc only (wastegate pressure for now until i take some spring pressure out)

Theres more but i cant think right now. Heres two pics of engine bay also and then the graphs so far. I will post better results later on once i fix the fueling issue and get my afr in the 11.0-11.8 range.

So I got to load the car up a few times to see how responsive it was and it was pretty awesome.

This one i started at 4200RPM and it still hit pretty decent:



This one i loaded it up around 3500RPM and it really made a bunch of low end tq:



Thats almost 600wtq before 5k RPM in 3rd gear. Keeping in mind it does have a really long 3rd gear though, since its a 4.11 final drive.

Heres the engine bay for those who havent seen it yet:





Once I get the fueling issue fixed and feel more comfortable with the car ill go pro some videos to really show how hard this thing pulls.

 

good build! spool is crazy

 

Beautiful car, nice numbers. Can i have it? All joking aside, can't wait for the videos..

 

That is power at it's finest. Great job Tom. Can't wait for the “real” power. Not that this car needs any more.

 

very nice results, but curious why you didnt opt to retain TS if your goal was to maximize response? the 6466 and efr9180 in TS still have enough exhaust flow for 900whp. I have seen quite a few 9180s hitting 400tq at 4400. on less than optimized 2.2l setups.

 

If you say 4400 and 400tq he is only 100rpm away from that and a Std frame Turbo with Vband turbine housing accomplishing the same with none of the fitment and availability issues of EFR turbos. Also the 9180 graph from Jeff Evans was a Dyna pack so it will show better spool and power numbers compared to a DynoJet or road log shows spool. I think the physical size of the EFR and fitment is the only major downside beside availability which may be taken care of now. I would love to drive one and experience the EFR magic. If my current setup fails or I just have money burning a hole in my pocket I might try one. Either that or an HTA Green open scroll with the open housing. Aby has a great powerband and 632whp estimated is enough for me. Once I turn mine up over 700 I might change my mind. Also I am installing a 4.11 so that will calm down the car with more power.

 

lookin good Tom

 

My comment was not to take away from these results at all. cause he is getting great torque from open scroll and 6466. for me looking at this build its pretty much " car gets what it needs, cost and time not a factor" . with no a/c and half radiator, I would have used the 9180 on this setup. theres no question in my mind the results would be superior in the response department. how much I dont know. to be honest there has only been one decent EFR build on these forums. and that was the first 7670 done at roadrace over three years ago. I want to see someone with good build knowledge setup a 8374 or 9180. I truly think it would change the game. people do choose parts largely from seeing results posted. What i can only know for sure is everyone who tried one has the same comment. "you have to drive it to understand" the dyno graphs are not displaying the whole picture. here is a juicy 8374 on a 4g63. really no other 700hp turbo on these forums comes close to spool like this. regardless of whether dyno reads high or low you only have to look at the sharp climb in torque curve. sucker builds torque fast.

 

I wish someone who has one of these setups with external gates would just swap a turbo on since a Std frame Turbo will fit easily fit and a direct back to back would be easily accomplished. Same as someone with a twin scroll T4 setup. Swap to an open scroll turbine housing and see the difference. I don't have either setup or I would do it myself. I have a plain Jane T3 because it is cast manifold and has the street manners I like. I like having a basically NA idle to 4k powerband for putting around and big turbo powerband from 4k to 8k. Dual purpose. My stock frame 20G was always on boost. Car was impossible to drive without speeding. Hahaha.

 

Great job buddy, car looks great!

 

I know what that power level feels like. I was lucky enough to get a ride in David's "Bad Bish" a few years ago, scary! The car is a BEAST Tom.

 

you sure do then Oz haha.

Jerry this is 3rd gear! Hes also mivec.

There's to many variables from one car to another, especially not in the same remote location, and the AFR is no where near what i want it to be, and that alone is really hurting torque a lot.

let me get the fuel issue resolved, afr where i want it (low / mid 11's) and then ill capture how hard this thing really pulls on video.

also only 32psi. ill post the boost curve in a bit. ill edit this post and supply the boost curve for others to see.

dont mind the ugly AFR's

I must say, I did forget to mention something important. The block has a half fill with hard blok, and it is using a CBRD mini radiator.

This radiator is extremely impressive and worth every penny. I can idle this car for an hr with no overheating of any kind. I can sit in car to car traffic with no

overheating. The thing just works. It actually keeps the temps cooler then the full size. The fan im using is a SPAL 30102044 13’’ High Performance Fan - Pull / Curved

 

Nice info Tom! I've told you before we have nearly identical setups! I did a quick 3rd gear log yesterday and I had 35 psi @ 5000 rpms at 12.4 afr and 5* timing at peak torque on E85. I added fuel after the pull but yes these 2.4's are awesome!! I can't wait to strap mine down and finalize everything! Oh and I have a 4.0 final drive.

-Jason

 

yep you do! almost identical.

After I changed the break in oil i pulled the pump housing out for probably the 4th time in 7 days now. I can literally take the housing out in 5min now i done it so many times.

The primary pump filter is clogged again. Do you guys think it happened again because i didnt drain the driver side tank from under the car and instead used the return line to drain? is there something else under these saddle tanks that we cant see from the top? I imagine so, because i cant see the drain hole on the floor of the saddle from inside the tank.

heres what it looks like again: (these filters have 1hr of driving on them only)





Adam have you ever gotten this yellowish tinted E85 from amerigreen? or is this bad gas? I don't ever remember seeing this color to the fuel before.

 

I personally believe they are plugged up because you used the return line whereas you still pumped the crap through the pump filter. If I were you I'd drain both from the bottom, wipe out the inside, maybe splash a little more fuel in from the sender opening and let it drain into a clean bucket to make sure its all clean. Then replace the filters including the inline filter and you should be fine.