Please help a 4yr old understand the IX e85 fuel system dilemma
If I understand this idea correctly then #86 (black wire lead) on the relay should be connected to the fuel tank harness +12V switched power (white power lead). Then we power the hobbs switch with #85. The hobbs switch negative lead will then connect to a chassis ground or the black wire lead on fuel tank harness. This will energize the coil on the relay to power the hobb's switch. Thus, giving battery power to the pump when the hobbs switch is activated.
The rest of the connections
#30 (blue wire) is connected to +12V fused battery power
#85 (white wire) lead goes to positive (power) lead on the hobb's switch
#87 (yellow wire) lead connects to the fuel pump connector (white wire lead)
Black wire lead of fuel pump connector goes to ground
The fuel pump connector black wire lead will be connected to ground.
The rest of the connections
#30 (blue wire) is connected to +12V fused battery power
#85 (white wire) lead goes to positive (power) lead on the hobb's switch
#87 (yellow wire) lead connects to the fuel pump connector (white wire lead)
Black wire lead of fuel pump connector goes to ground
The fuel pump connector black wire lead will be connected to ground.
I agree with you that the wires should not be cut after I drew out a diagram to figure out how the fuel pump gets power in this configuration.
All that needs to happen is the white wire is stripped and #86 wire and #87 are connected with it. Then necessary grounds to complete the circuit.
However, the hobbs switch should be NO (normally open). In other words, turned off until it sees boost. That way when it energizes under boost and the circuit is complete (#86 and #85 coil has power and relay energizes). If it was NC then the opposite would happen.
All that needs to happen is the white wire is stripped and #86 wire and #87 are connected with it. Then necessary grounds to complete the circuit.
However, the hobbs switch should be NO (normally open). In other words, turned off until it sees boost. That way when it energizes under boost and the circuit is complete (#86 and #85 coil has power and relay energizes). If it was NC then the opposite would happen.
I agree with you that the wires should not be cut after I drew out a diagram to figure out how the fuel pump gets power in this configuration.
All that needs to happen is the white wire is stripped and #86 wire and #87 are connected with it. Then necessary grounds to complete the circuit.
However, the hobbs switch should be NO (normally open). In other words, turned off until it sees boost. That way when it energizes under boost and the circuit is complete (#86 and #85 coil has power and relay energizes). If it was NC then the opposite would happen.
All that needs to happen is the white wire is stripped and #86 wire and #87 are connected with it. Then necessary grounds to complete the circuit.
However, the hobbs switch should be NO (normally open). In other words, turned off until it sees boost. That way when it energizes under boost and the circuit is complete (#86 and #85 coil has power and relay energizes). If it was NC then the opposite would happen.
Last edited by 2006EvoIXer; May 20, 2018 at 06:41 PM.
I definitely recommend adding a small 18 or 20 awg wire back to connect to volt meter. As you've connected #86 & #87 to oem white power wire, add this too. This way, if the 15A fuse blows, Hobbs switch, or STM relay fails, you will see only 12V when boosting. When rewire is working, you will see 13.5-14.2V. That way, if you don't see more than 12V, stop boosting because you're likely running lean.
Last edited by 2006EvoIXer; May 21, 2018 at 05:51 PM.
So it sounds like you guys telling me not to install a Walbro 450. That I should only do the 255 until I get a new turbo/reinforced long block. Is this correct? Am I not able to progressively step this along and not buy double equipment?
How does one pick the appropriate injector size? I watched the ID video you posted Abacus. Thank you. They clearly make nice stuff and aren't that much more expensive. I stopped by the shop that is going to be tuning the car also today. P&L out of Lisle, IL. They also sell Injector Dynamics. They said they have the Mits tuner come in every other week (their bread and butter is Subbie's) but they work on a wide variety of vehicles.
2006EvoIXer I appreciate all the technical information. I just really don't want to have to spend extra money and time doing things twice. I HATE that with a passion.
How does one pick the appropriate injector size? I watched the ID video you posted Abacus. Thank you. They clearly make nice stuff and aren't that much more expensive. I stopped by the shop that is going to be tuning the car also today. P&L out of Lisle, IL. They also sell Injector Dynamics. They said they have the Mits tuner come in every other week (their bread and butter is Subbie's) but they work on a wide variety of vehicles.
2006EvoIXer I appreciate all the technical information. I just really don't want to have to spend extra money and time doing things twice. I HATE that with a passion.
If you keep your stock pump until you upgrade your turbo, you're not upgrading twice. I'm just suggesting you prepare for Wally 450 swap when you upgrade your turbo and injectors at same time. I agree not to upgrade twice since it sucks to sell used parts (too many low ballers.
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I thought I couldn't do e85 on a stock fuel pump and injectors? So I would HAVE to get these two items if was going e85.
So go find a an FP red, some injectors, and a new pump then tune for e85.
P&L quoted $1,045 to do a dual map tune. e85 and 93.
So go find a an FP red, some injectors, and a new pump then tune for e85.
P&L quoted $1,045 to do a dual map tune. e85 and 93.
Have you done compression test yet?







