A downgrade? Maybe not
<grin> Yea, the Sony is a little out of place. I do think that it's a very cool product, marque aside. There's a 4ch version, too, in the same form factor. These amps are very small. Having thought about this a little more, I'd really like to avoid having an amp in the glovebox. That's where I keep my logging notebook, so I might have to ditch the Ref200 after all. An Arc 4050XXK is the new candidate.
Beats me. I know there's more than enough room for a 8x10x3 enclosure. There's also more vertical space under the seat, itself. You should take a look, since you have some box building and fitting experience.
how much room we we actually have under the seats?
Is that the audio option that put 8" woofers under the seats?
If I recall correctly, even the lower model had the woofers under the seats. The Logic 7 system had an extra speaker in the center of the dash, uprated speakers all around, and a digital amplifier with double the power of the standard BMW Professional unit. Ridiculously good imaging and awesome sound for a factory unit.
If I recall correctly, even the lower model had the woofers under the seats. The Logic 7 system had an extra speaker in the center of the dash, uprated speakers all around, and a digital amplifier with double the power of the standard BMW Professional unit. Ridiculously good imaging and awesome sound for a factory unit.

I share the same passions, though music a little less than before, because working in something is always liable to make you grow at least a little tired of it.
<grin> Yea, the Sony is a little out of place. I do think that it's a very cool product, marque aside. There's a 4ch version, too, in the same form factor. These amps are very small. Having thought about this a little more, I'd really like to avoid having an amp in the glovebox. That's where I keep my logging notebook, so I might have to ditch the Ref200 after all. An Arc 4050XXK is the new candidate.
Beats me. I know there's more than enough room for a 8x10x3 enclosure. There's also more vertical space under the seat, itself. You should take a look, since you have some box building and fitting experience.
Beats me. I know there's more than enough room for a 8x10x3 enclosure. There's also more vertical space under the seat, itself. You should take a look, since you have some box building and fitting experience.
thanks for the info
im looking to redo the amps too- i was wondering for my setup if i can hold the amps i want under the seats.
i'm currently running an re se12 which weighs quite a bit lol
I wasn't joking about having a box built. Let me know if you're interested. I called Earthquake this morning and they were no help at all. I have some feelers out to see how we can scale the mouth of the horn. If we can't figure it out, maybe just a simple, carpeted, sealed box.
Footprint-wise, we have ~8x12 to work with. A larger amp can fit, but it would be seen with the door open.
I wasn't joking about having a box built. Let me know if you're interested. I called Earthquake this morning and they were no help at all. I have some feelers out to see how we can scale the mouth of the horn. If we can't figure it out, maybe just a simple, carpeted, sealed box.
I wasn't joking about having a box built. Let me know if you're interested. I called Earthquake this morning and they were no help at all. I have some feelers out to see how we can scale the mouth of the horn. If we can't figure it out, maybe just a simple, carpeted, sealed box.

Ordered the driver for the underseat sub - an Earthquake SWS-8. It's the only 8" driver on the market that has a chance of working in an enclosure this small. Now I just need to find someone to build me an enclosure and to decide on speakers.
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