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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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523 WHP with Flash and AMS Gt35R turbo kit

Guys - here is a dyno sheet from today on the AMS GT35R turbo kit and my Dyno Flash

This is the most power we have ever made on the flash without nos

We did not want to press further as it was a bone stock motor

Thr run had some bumps in the start of the pull from the car sliiping the clutch or all 4 wheels on the dyno - (it spooled hard)

The AMS Turbo kit is a killer set up - and we are showing that the stock ecu can support very high whp levels



Mods are

AMS GT35R
3" exchaust
272 272 HKS cams
780 cc injectors
Walbro fuel pump
Stock head and valve springs
ARP head studs and rod bolts
AVO fmic - stock upper fmic pipes
Turbo xs RFL BOV
Hallman MBC


Here is same turbo dyno sheet on my race engine and stand alone at 10 psi more boost (from new Jan Turbo Magazine)


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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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wow damn!! why is the a/f so unstable? is it because the ecu is at its upper limits?
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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wow damn!! why is the a/f so unstable? is it because the ecu is at its upper limits?
In the early part of the pull the clutch was slipping a bit so that threw things off a bit as the car loaded and unloaded

I did not want to try another pull at this power level as I did not want to take any chances with a customer's clutch which was over loaded beyond its capacity

In the later part I ran it richer near peak cylinder pressure and then tapering off leaner towards red line as the smallish injectors exceeded 100% duty cycle

All in all - the a/f is a pump gas super safe rich level

I could have gotten another 20 whp with more tuning

Once we hit 500 whp it was basically time to turn down the boost and put a road racing tune in the car as that is what this customer is doing with his ride

As for the upper limits - we did not come close to them on this tune

There is a lot of power left for ths stock ecu

I think the stock ecu could do a lot more - we may try again one day if we find a customer with a stronger clutch and built motor

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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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Great numbers! Few questions. What intake was he using? What about the exhaust?

Did you notice if the stock upper i/c pipe had too much expansion at that much air flow? Think it hurt power?

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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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Wow congrat's on some great number's Al. I am sure that Evo owner is happy. I love seeing that the stock Ecu and Dynoflash can work so well with turbo upgrades now I just have to wait until my warranty is up. Oh well it gives me time to save for the turbo kit anyway
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bo0oost
Great numbers! Few questions. What intake was he using? What about the exhaust?

Did you notice if the stock upper i/c pipe had too much expansion at that much air flow? Think it hurt power?

Thanks
The AMS kit comes with an intake and down pipe

This customer actually has an extra resonator to quiet the exhuast sound so its not a racing exhuast by any means

The expansion of the stock upper i/c pipe may make the car feel a bit soft on spool up with the stock turbo but with the AMS turbo its a non - issue

Without a doubt a perfromance fmic pipe set would help things a bit with a more direct air flow
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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But what brand exhaust was it? I'm just curious...

I have a 3" B&B catback, and while I like how it's quiet, I'm afraid it's hurting performance. So it's either a 3" Cutout, or a new catback. So I'm curious what catback this guy is using.

Also, how can I get dynoflashed? I'm in CA.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MYEVOVIII
Wow congrat's on some great number's Al. I am sure that Evo owner is happy. I love seeing that the stock Ecu and Dynoflash can work so well with turbo upgrades now I just have to wait until my warranty is up. Oh well it gives me time to save for the turbo kit anyway
When we started with the Dyno Flash we had to scratch our heads to even geta car with cams to function properly

Through steady work and focusing 100% on evos for over a year every day we have unlocked many hidden functions of the stock ecu (kind of like playing Halo 1,000 times, you learn a few short cuts and hiden keys) and now we have had an opportunity today to go beyond even what I would have predicted was possible even a few months ago.

btw - there are a lot of really exciting developments taking place at Dyno Flash which will be announced in the comming days and weeks. Since we took the race car out of service for the season at the end of the summer I have been working full time on going forward with some of the ideas I dreamed up over the course of the past year. Goal # 1 - make the USA's fastest street driven STI - in the works.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 09:30 PM
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But what brand exhaust was it? I'm just curious...

I have a 3" B&B catback, and while I like how it's quiet, I'm afraid it's hurting performance. So it's either a 3" Cutout, or a new catback. So I'm curious what catback this guy is using.

Also, how can I get dynoflashed? I'm in CA.
Like I said before this customer has an extra resonator in his exhaust and its super quiet. I am sure there is a few more whp for him with something more straight like the Buschur Exhuast (which I run).


As far as getting a Dyno Flash in cali - I will be there next week the 12th through the 15th for fully tuned custom flashes and we are running a unheard of low price on this trip of $299.99 for the flash and 2 hours of custom tuning. The trip is just about sold out - there may be a spot or two left - details on my area of these forums.

Also - we always have the through the mail flash which you can get by sending your ecu by fed ex for $199.99.

We do have a CA shop which represents us out there Dynamic Design of Chatsworth California.
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