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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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My car wants to Move in Neutral??

I have a Lancer Evolution with some nice mods. More inportantly 272's and pullys and now a ACT clutch.


Since it has gotten cold out, teh car REALLY needs to be warmed up before even attempting to drive, but once its warmed up its perfect.


But early in the morning, I wake up and start my car to warm up before work. AND teh rpms shoot to 1800 or so as my foot is on the clutch. I let the clutch GO and teh rpms drop below 1000 and teh car wants to move foward, not hard, not even enough to make it roll with no brakes on, ,but you can feel it. If I put the clutch in, the RPM's shoot up again as there is no friction. Anyways this goes on for like 5 mins, then sh.it warms up, and it stops all together.

I would like to think it is the clutch, but it can't be as the car is in neutral, and even if it was grabbing, it has no power to the wheels? Any reason why a car would want to pull foward in neutral?
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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You don't drive your car hard enough on a day-to-day basis and now it's pissed and is going to take matters into it's own hands.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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Hey bro, you can fix that easy. You lay on your back and look above your clutch pedal. Towards the top there is a little shaft you need to turn a twist or two. It is very difficult to get to comfortably. First you have to loosen a little nut at the end of the shaft before you can turn it. I'm simply too lazy right now to give the full write up, but it IS an easy fix.

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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Seriously, though...

I've seen this before, but I can't remember what the hell caused it exactly. I want to say it is a mix between the cold, thick gear oil in the transmission and the main shaft in the transmission spinning, causeing the gears to "slightly" turn, making it feel like there is a forward movement. If you were to take the car up on a lift, pull the output shafts from all 4 wheels, put the car in neutral and let it idle, you would see the shafts move under their own power. You can usually stop them with minimal effort because it is more or less static torque that is turning them.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 90GSX-03EVO
You don't drive your car hard enough on a day-to-day basis and now it's pissed and is going to take matters into it's own hands.
lol
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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It just seems like your clutch isn't totally disengaging. It needs to be adjusted. Although, theoreticaly, the car could be haunted.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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Sounds like you have a problem.
Check to see if....hell I won't pretend I know what the hell is wrong.
Take it the dealership
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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turn right
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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ok it can't be the clutch, it's in neutral, so even if this was the case, it has nothing to spin as it is in neutral.


I am more interested in the adjustment smogrunner mentioned
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by umiami80
ok it can't be the clutch....
....I am more interested in the adjustment smogrunner mentioned

That's a clutch pedal adjustment.

Did you read my post?^^^^^^
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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when this happens when youre depressing the clutch, i think it's got everything to do with the clutch.

adjust your master cylinder rod
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Ok so I need to adjust my Pedal, which way, does it need to be tightened or loosened? Anyone have this problem? I need it fixed before my clucth wares away to a NUB


thanks in advance...
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 04:29 AM
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IMHO Def not the clutch.

It is the cold thick trans oil. When the clutch is in.....the idle is high becasue the engine is no longer "conected" to the input shaft and has no load. When the clutch is out....it is spining the input shaft but the main shaft is also trying to spin due to high viscosity of the trans oil. When the main shaft spins it is basically going to move the car but since it is only conected by oil viscosity then it is just "dragging" Also explains it when the oil heats up it goes away. The idle drops because there is a load on the engine trying to move the main shaft. Dont worry about it.....just let everything heat up and dont adjust your clutch unless you are having problems when the car is IN gear not in neutral.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 90GSX-03EVO

...it is a mix between the cold, thick gear oil in the transmission and the main shaft in the transmission spinning, causeing the gears to "slightly" turn, making it feel like there is a forward movement. If you were to take the car up on a lift, pull the output shafts from all 4 wheels, put the car in neutral and let it idle, you would see the shafts move under their own power. You can usually stop them with minimal effort because it is more or less static torque that is turning them.


Originally Posted by rsr14

....It is the cold thick trans oil. When the clutch is in.....the idle is high becasue the engine is no longer "conected" to the input shaft and has no load. When the clutch is out....it is spining the input shaft but the main shaft is also trying to spin due to high viscosity of the trans oil. When the main shaft spins it is basically going to move the car but since it is only conected by oil viscosity then it is just "dragging" Also explains it when the oil heats up it goes away. The idle drops because there is a load on the engine trying to move the main shaft. Dont worry about it.....just let everything heat up and dont adjust your clutch unless you are having problems when the car is IN gear not in neutral.


Come on, guy. Stop thinking it's the clutch and listen to some of the logical advice on here.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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WOW, amazing answer. I thought this may be it. Its ALSO a bi.tch to shift into 2nd, ONCE, then its as smooth as silk.
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