Differences in cost.....
Differences in cost.....
Hello,
Well that is two in two days, AEM EMS's that is, that I am tuning and fixing that have been bought somewhere else. There are a lot of these being sold that's apparent by the amount of time I spend tuning and talking on the phone. What isn't apparent to YOU GUYS is the difference in cost when you buy one.
We are NOT the cheapest place to buy an AEM EMS. I am NOT trying to be the cheapest. I am trying to make sure there isn't a bunch of hidden costs, other upgrades and hidden tuning costs for the guy that buys it though.
I want to list part numbers and everything else here so you guys know what to get, I actually had them typed and then deleted it. I don't need to make it that easy for you to go somewhere else and get the right parts.
This is what you do need to look for and what we include in our COMPLETE kit for the car:
EMS box with integrated wide band (not integrated boxes are cheaper)
Wide band 02 sensor
5 bar MAP sensor
CNC billet aluminum MAP sensor adapter (we are the only ones with this)
Wiring harness for the map sensor (pigtail)
Air temp sensor
SS air temp sensor bung (we are the only ones with this)
Air temp sensor harness (pigtail)
Free tuning, two maps, one for race gas and one for pump gas.
*cold start, driveability AND fuel mileage are all tuned.
The pigtails you have to have to wire this thing in. Most other companies are selling the kits with a standard EMS box, no wideband or sensor, no air temp sensor, they leave you having to hack the map sensor in with a "T" and some hose, if you do get an air temp sensor it is just a sensor and no bung for installing it. It's easy to see why someone would be fooled into getting a cheaper unit from somewhere else.
Now add into this the tuning on top of the box and the great deal you thought you got really ends up SUCKING!
One thing to remember, if you buy any fuel management from someone and they tune it on the dyno to get that big number that is probably all you are going to have, a big number. You still have to start it, drive it and get some type of respectable fuel mileage out of it. These are all things that are included in the purchase of the unit from us.
I am posting this because I am hoping to save some of you guys the PITA it can be. I am also posting it hoping for more sale, lets be honest.
Bottom line is both these guys in the last two days spent around $800 extra for tuning, sensor adapters, wiring and the wideband capabilities that you should have if you are going to mess with a standalone.
Good luck,
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
Well that is two in two days, AEM EMS's that is, that I am tuning and fixing that have been bought somewhere else. There are a lot of these being sold that's apparent by the amount of time I spend tuning and talking on the phone. What isn't apparent to YOU GUYS is the difference in cost when you buy one.
We are NOT the cheapest place to buy an AEM EMS. I am NOT trying to be the cheapest. I am trying to make sure there isn't a bunch of hidden costs, other upgrades and hidden tuning costs for the guy that buys it though.
I want to list part numbers and everything else here so you guys know what to get, I actually had them typed and then deleted it. I don't need to make it that easy for you to go somewhere else and get the right parts.
This is what you do need to look for and what we include in our COMPLETE kit for the car:
EMS box with integrated wide band (not integrated boxes are cheaper)
Wide band 02 sensor
5 bar MAP sensor
CNC billet aluminum MAP sensor adapter (we are the only ones with this)
Wiring harness for the map sensor (pigtail)
Air temp sensor
SS air temp sensor bung (we are the only ones with this)
Air temp sensor harness (pigtail)
Free tuning, two maps, one for race gas and one for pump gas.
*cold start, driveability AND fuel mileage are all tuned.
The pigtails you have to have to wire this thing in. Most other companies are selling the kits with a standard EMS box, no wideband or sensor, no air temp sensor, they leave you having to hack the map sensor in with a "T" and some hose, if you do get an air temp sensor it is just a sensor and no bung for installing it. It's easy to see why someone would be fooled into getting a cheaper unit from somewhere else.
Now add into this the tuning on top of the box and the great deal you thought you got really ends up SUCKING!
One thing to remember, if you buy any fuel management from someone and they tune it on the dyno to get that big number that is probably all you are going to have, a big number. You still have to start it, drive it and get some type of respectable fuel mileage out of it. These are all things that are included in the purchase of the unit from us.
I am posting this because I am hoping to save some of you guys the PITA it can be. I am also posting it hoping for more sale, lets be honest.
Bottom line is both these guys in the last two days spent around $800 extra for tuning, sensor adapters, wiring and the wideband capabilities that you should have if you are going to mess with a standalone.
Good luck,
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com