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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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400whp with stock turbo?

My goal is to reach 400whp on the stock turbo (I will probably need an external wastegate to hold more boost). These are the parts that will be in the car to do it. What do you guys think?

3" Turbo-back - No Cat
Arp Studs
Whinebro Pump - Aeromotive Pressure Regulator
660cc Injectors
HKS 272/272
Upper and Lower IC Piping
Buschurs Large Intercooler
ACT 2600
Magnus Sheetmetal Intake

And some wastegate will probably be need to hold 26psi.

Ill be using VP C16 trying to make it happen.

And I will have those little BS items like plugs, wires, and a fuel/timing controller.

I know 400 is a little high but I am real confident that 375 would be relatively easy with this setup so I figure I will try to push it to 400. If anyone can think of parts that will help me get there that I haven't listen let me know (Aside from an EMS). I just can't think of any other items that will help me get there. I don't want to put an EMS and I don't want nitrous. Other than that Im open to suggestion. Thanks guys!
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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Oh, I guess I should also make sure everyone knows I want to hit the numbers with the stock turbo
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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I just recently had major mods done to my car and Dave Buschur said himself that the stock turbo can handle real close to 400. So, I don't see why not. Good Luck in your quest.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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why are you getting both an FPR and injectors?

why upgrade the intake manifold before the exhaust manifold?

i'm guessing you are including an MBC at least also.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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The most important thing is missing= MANAGEMENT.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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Three little works to managment A E M. Don't leave home without it! It will get you to your numbers. A couple of extra good mods would be the bigger throttle body and head work especially if you are getting a better intake manifold and a lighter flywheel to go with your ACT.

Also to get away from a wastegate upgrade you can use a EBC becuase they take control over the stock wastegate completely so that will get you as much pressure as you need or it will make.

Good luck.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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larger injectors and a knowledgable tuner,good luck post results
26 psi on stock turbo?ive heard that with the headstuds you could go to 23 safely on 110 is 26 safe with c16??
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ez76
why are you getting both an FPR and injectors?

why upgrade the intake manifold before the exhaust manifold?

i'm guessing you are including an MBC at least also.
Well I kinda assumed people would know I had a boost controller

The exhaust manifold flows plenty for my turbo.

And you need a better regulator to handle the more fuel you will poop out and the injectors need to poop it out.

I was hoping I could get some more people that have done extensive tuning to answer my questions... not a guy that doesnt know why you need both injectors and a regulator.

I was also under the impression that our stock wastegate simply could not hold the boost.. I am almost positive about that... that is why it won't help to have an EBC. And it never hurts to have a better wastegate anyways.. no more taper and it will flow better.

Our cars dont have bad exhaust manifolds stock, in fact they are extremely good... our intake manifolds are designed for smooth power curves, driveability, etc... I am looking for top end power. I figured I might need to do some headwork but I am trying to stay away from any motor mods aside from studs and cams. I think it is doable.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by WrX Kila
The most important thing is missing= MANAGEMENT.
I wrote:
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And I will have those little BS items like plugs, wires, and a fuel/timing controller.
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The reason for this is I am unsure on whos management I will be using. I dont want a standalone as I also wrote. Ecu plus makes a good product I might use but I really want it to have knock and anti-lag. I will just wait until what I want gets made. So no, I didnt miss management
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TrinaBabe
I was hoping I could get some more people that have done extensive tuning to answer my questions... not a guy that doesnt know why you need both injectors and a regulator.
Since ez76 is making around 400whp (DJ) on a stockish (TME) turbo, maybe you should listen to what he says and answer his questions to you.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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Shouldn't be hard. I got 392 with stock intake, head un-ported, stock exhaust manifold, and stock turbo (not 10.5) which was good enough at the time for me to run 11.8's at 118mph. If you were to use a sheet metal intake and exhaust manifold. With say the 05MR turbo... you should be able to get over 400awhp with no problem. Well with the right engine managment and tune that is.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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Id rather not stockish turbo is alot different than stock. With that turbo I am sure I would hit 400. The idea is 100% stock turbo (Aside from the wastegate if needed). I am sure I can get 380 or so but it is hard to push a turbo to its final 20hp. By his comment on the FPR and the injectors... I honestly don't want to listen to much of his advice unless other people that I trust more agree. Anyone SHOULD know why you would need a pressure regulator and injectors, otherwise why does everyone buy injectors? Why not just raise the fuel pressure :P Who needs huge injectors when you could have 200psi of fuel, lol
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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If I could get 392 without the intake the manifold will push it over the top for me Thanks!

btw: What did you have in your car when you got the 392?
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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you wont make **** without the aem
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