[QUOTE=Az3ar]It sounds like a great clutch but $3k is just too much for a clutch. I am sure it feels very close to stock as many are saying but $3k is just overkill for a daily driven EVO. Of course they will have a rebuild program because the customer spent $3000 on a clutch so the customer is basically paying for a warranty through the years and the clutch it self. $600 for rebuild is a bit high as well. Anyways, Its your product and you can offer it at any price you like but $3000This may be true to most EVO 8 owners if there car is just BPU or stock. But when you are making over 450+ HP and you daily drive it, the clutch will be one of the highest price items to recover from. Second will be tires
Why spend on a $1500 clutch when you know that it will only last the duration of your heavy right foot. All of the metal friction surfaces will indeed have hotspots and change the co-efficient of friction on the surface. But why invest in a item that cannot care for itself in a true rebuild!
In a clutch situations when purchasing it's a need ( I believe that for the most part )
RPS Twin Disc when purchasing it's a need and a WANT! ( This is true for EVO 8 owners that has tried all else and nothing seem to last in your driveline! )

Cheers,

 

I don't doubt that a product that will perform as this clutch is supposed to is worth a lot of money..... It's just that I'm bothered by the idea that $1500 buys you a "cheap" product..... Also, the rebuild itself poses serious issues. To me the $3000 is only part of the huge expense this clutch entails. Just the initial installation is going to cost at least $500..... Now, I don't know how often these rebuilds are going to happen, but I don't see them costing less than the original installtion as far as labor goes.....

Worse yet, one the the biggest risks and potential expenses with this (or almost any internal mod/repair) is that the tech will somehow fu ckit up..... I hate to be a pessimist or a devils advocate, but IMHO (based on hard facts) the chances of the installation or rebuild getting botched up are very high.......

I don't want to unfairly criticize a good product and my intention is not to imply that this RPS clutch is anything but a fine piece of goods. I just don't believe in exaggerations any more after falling for expensive lies before. Also, I don't believe in trivializing or minimizing the expenses that apparently come along with these products.

 

Uh huh.... "Personal, hard bought experience". But not with this clutch. Anyways, it hardly matters if you believe anyone here because this clutch will prove itself. When you talk about experience though, it is always better to have experience with the particular product your talking about. In this case, you don't.

Perhaps next we can do some bench racing?

 

Every clutch that can handle drag racing with any amount of decent power will cost over 2k besides the ACT. All of them minus ACT will cost over $1000(some a lot more) to rebuild. So $600 is CHEAP. The clutch is not 3k it is 2795 including shipping and all.

I have already stated that this clutch can be for everyone but there are other options that will work good depending on your goals. Read back and you can check out my post. If you want to make any kind of decent amount of power and want a clutch that won't fail with a warranty to back up its claims you get RPS CC. If you want a clutch that you can get service for here in the US fast you get RPS CC. If you don't feel like paying over $1000 to rebuild the clutch when it goes you get RPS CC.

There already tons of threads explaining what makes this clutch better than the rest etc so I will not go into that. Use the search function.

 

Also somebody mentioned the $1500 figure. $1500 does not buy you a "cheap option" as stated. You can get a ACT clutch installed for that money with fidanza flywheel. Or you can get a exedy twin disc non carbon. It has already been noted that the Exedy twin disc non carbon will not hold over 350ft tq while taking the abuse of drag racing or hard launches. You would need at least exedy twin carbon which is significantly more.

Best clutches in the market are ATS Tripple, Exedy Tripple, and RPS Twin. Search and you will find the difference between each of them and chose the one you want.

 

 

No need to do bench racing or any other kind of racing. I hope this clutch proves to be all you say it is. If that's the case, I'll be in the line to buy one when my stock clutch goes

I'm just extremely skeptical and suspicious when I hear the words "better than stock" or "just like stock" when used to describe aftermarket, high performance or flat out racing parts for a car. I'm not a tuner but I've had in the past, 2 miatas that I added forced induction (turbo & SC) along with handling mods, a '96 GSR Integra that I added FI and suspension, a WRX that I also modded an EVO 8 that was very extensively modified (and pretty much ruined). I'm on my second EVO, a '05 MR and my 3rd Miata. In all those cars and all those mods there was not a single thing that was a high performance item which had driveability "better than stock" or even "just like stock".

I've been around for a while so my experience with cars is rather long and I've owned lots of sports cars in my day. To give you an idea of how long I've been messing with cars, I'd say that the majority of the cars I've owned had carburetors, generators, mechanical distributors and belt driven fans (some of them even had 6 volt electrical systems) . Maybe my experience doers not include the RPS twin clutch (which is probably a very fine unit for it's purpose), but you can understand why I'm skeptical of such claims.

Peace

 

Well, if you are ever in my neck of the woods, you are welcome to take my car for a drive.

 

It was implied that other clutches were not as good (probably true) and there were some words to the effect "you get what you pay for".... As I recall, the Exedy twin clutch I had installed in my '03 GSR retailed for around $1400, not counting the installtion (which by the way, was botched).

Anyway, I guess it's a matter of perception. Perhaps to some people the $1400 Exedy clutch is cheap and therefore if you have problems, you pretty much deserve them for skimping on the clutch.... BTW, I've heard a "tuner" before tell me that only the high priced multi-plate carbon disk clutches were any good ($2500 and up)... Maybe they are, I just did not have an extra $3K laying around to try one of those when my stock clutch failed..... OTOH, I was lucky to have saved that extra cash since I ended up trading the car anyway

 

Thank you, I would very much like to do that... Too bad you are so far away...

 

Who the hell are you to think you walk the evom gravy train with all us to look up to you? This guy has a valid argument, arm chair or not. We have NO idea what incentives you received for posting your praises for the almighty clutch. Reading your posts, it sure sounds like you are the one that is saying you know everything now that you've driven this clutch for 750 miles... and you didn't even install it yourself!

Don't be such a dick

 

Well well said

 

Interesting comment considering the context of your post. Thanks for trolling. The whole point of my post was to report on my current impressions of the clutch after driving it for a bit. I now have 1K miles on it, which is still not a lot, but my impression stands. I recieve nothing for posting about this clutch. Many people have asked about it, and I had the oppertunity to give my perspective as someone who actually HAS this clutch. I never said I know everything about the clutch. That is specifically why I noted how many miles I have on it. I certainly have more experience with it than those who have never driven it, yourself included.

You are a true evom'er. Troll away.

 

Thanks for proving my point

Anyways, back on topic... how was the install? Any problems?

 

Keep thinking you made a point if it helps you sleep at night.

The install went fine. I had a 2.5 hour drive home that went without a hitch. Pleasure to drive.

If anyone else has any questions, let me know.