Just get an ingals dampner and hope for the best.

 

Cyber EVO is running a Apexi turbo kit so I guess it isn't proven yet

 

Apex'i kit after the manifold cracked a few times Every tubular manifold has a chance of cracking....The apex'i one is just built like **** and WILL crack. The wastegate placement/structure is horrible (especially supporting a huge wastegate like that)....Although i will say that IHI turbo is baddass!..This is what we did to fix things...

 

i actually OWN the apexi rx6 kit
and warr is just talking out of his ***

 

Got the kit on my 6.5 Tommi Makinen and im more than happy with it.
Its not even tuned for the track yet and only running at .8bar because im in need of a fuel pressure regulator and yet at an event last week here in Ireland it had Subarus for breakfast so cant wait to have it all completely done

Definately cannot fault this kit well yet anyway

 

i'd recomend against it. a friend of mine has it, a stand alone, upgraded intake mani (i think magnus?) etc and on race gas he's doing 11.7 @ 121. for all that money spent, i think it's a terrible turbo but thats my opinion.

i'd stick with ams, buschur or shearer, or if you just are obsessed with overspending for something at least over spend and get the best. FULL-RACE

 

The Apex'i/PE RX6 turbo kits are designed for Road Racing. If you want to drag race an EVO, go with GT30, GT35 or GT42. Period.

 

therefore..................the Apex kit is better for daily driving?

i think everyone will agree that when you go to buy a product from a manufactorer, such as Apex - and as credible too- your going to expect higher prices for many reasons. Popular reasons that influence price (either up or down) is the preceived Brand name of that company. Apex has been around for awhile, their prices reflect that. (ever wonder why Mercedes constantly overprices their vehicles compared to their competitors? Mercedes invented the automobile, not mention they have been incorporated longer than its rivals, and its because of this that their name (an intanigle asset that appreciates and depreciates) requires, or is valued, higher than their rivals. automatically meaning that a sur-charge is factored into the price of their vehicles. the concept is not different here. which explain why HKS kits are also more expensive. this again proves this correct when you see Greddy, AMS, and other kit manufactorers whom consistantly price their products below the more recognized names.

the upside to paying extra for the name is a preceived understanding that this company's ability to flourish for as long as it has means that in some way their products have a garuentee (sp?), but they dont. point in case, look at Mercedes, their products suck, period. the same could be true to Apex, and HKS, but i wouldn't know really. i have, however, an HKS twin turbo kit installed on my 97 TT Supra, with about 2k miles on it, i have no complaints about reliability, but i suppose time will be the ultimate factor in the quality of this kit- and moreover, and reflection towards their name.

either way, im justing trying to prove that in buying a turbo kit where there are many companies competing for your money, the most expensive is not always the one NOT to buy - Visa versa- but that actual testimonies from a vast array of people should be used to base a sound decision. in this case, i dont see many people giving their own opinions on this kit, which leads me to believe not many people have the Apex turbo kit, therefore, the opinions given should have little baring on the reputation of kit, or the company name itself. however, in the case that someones testimony is backed by document evidence that suggests negative quality for this kit, or the Apex name, then it should be veiwed that AT LEAST this kit might not be worth getting. (what i mean by document evidence is for a person with this kit should drive a particular way most of the time, documenting anytime the car has a mishap as a result of the kit. then that person should factor in their driving perference that their car would normal experience. aside from this the only other factors that should influence the kit, or brand name, reputation are first impressions of kit material quality, quality of instructions, difficulty or ease of installation, and climate variations. after factoring all of that in, one can make a sound judgement to anyone opinions on that particular product, or the brand name itself.

so you see , the cheapest is not always the best, and neither for the most expensive. with so many companies, a long and tedious (sp?) process of research into the vast array of products and their producer's is actually worth the complete amount of the purchasing product. buy the wrong product, and you can pay out the *** to learn from this mistake in judgement. buy the right product, and well, you won't really have problem will you?

no.

john

p.s. lots of grammer errors! sorry

 

a side note to add:

a general beleif that a cheaper turbo kit is more worth getting than a more expensive kit may actually be the wrong decision.

for Apex and HKS, i am under the impression that these kit producers manufactorer every part of the kit, thus, every single aspects of every single part that comes with the kit has been specifically designed for this kit, or was specifically selected for this kit. either way, the part choosen is choosen on it's relation to the outcomes of the kit design. as a result it should be said that in the automobile industry there are two types of companies, form and function. companies that fall within the Function type look to seek the most efficent and most reliable method to building a part, as well as its design, with little concern to the physical appearance or aspect of the product part. companies falling under the Form type look to appease customers instantly. by doing so, physical appearance and ergonomics play a huge roll into designing their products, or parts. however, it should be said that a balance between form is funcation is most satisfying in the design of products. so really, companies have differing porportions of Form to Function in every product they sell, and when compared to other companies as well.

in this case, Apex might be more expensive because of their determination to either one, engineer into their product reliability and function, or on sheer form. in other words, does Apex generally seek to sell products that satisfy a speed freak, a daily driver, or a little of both? perhaps its more form, then function, or visa versa. either way is Apex is selling products that exceed more in sheer HP, its a good chance these products weren't designed for reliability at all. Or if Apex doesn't wish to sell products that completely satisfy the horsepower freak, its a good chance then that reliability has played a role into design. this is crucial here because if, at all, reliability influenced design, its a good chance that this modo on this product falls over into the rest of their product line-up.

ok im tired. back to work.
just some food for thought, and becase i like to sound like a geek.

p.s. AMS, Greddy, ect. (the smaller names for turbo kits) outsource many of their parts included with their kits to other companies. this substantially decreases the cost of the turbo kit, but also, cuts the oppurtunity for complete quality satisfaction also. this is because that since these parts were not solely produced for this kit, the parameters that of which this part, of a kit, operates within might cause added friction when teamed up with other parts of the kit. this can have little, or a huge impact on kit design, efficentcy, and reliablity. its a similar situation when choosing brakes. do you buy brakes that require huge amounts of heat to work properly - for daily driving? no! do you buy brakes that fade as temp increase for racing? no! but in each case, the products themselves are good, but its the enviroment and relation to other concerning parts the affect the performance of each. for instance, if you buy brake the require massive inputs of heat to cause proper operation of braking, then what happens if while routine daily driving you need to make a sudden stop? the distance needed to stop may work for brakes that dont require heat to properly work; brakes that fade under excessive heat inputs, but for brakes needing to build excessive heat to enter the realm of normal operating parameters, that distant that lies between your car and the other car might in fact be the minimal (or less than) distance needed for the brakes to even begin to work properly. meaning your F'ed. You choice, although good, was poor when factored into their normal operating enviroment.

 

My buddy used that turbo kit in his 04 evo. He said it was ok but i knew he wasnt really happy with it. He sold it last year for 1500.00 and he went with a buschur turbo.(not sure exactely which one. But now he is happy as hell.