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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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Upgraded FMIC and piping

I've recently come in contact with a shop out here who recently started fabricating products for the evo. They create some great quality fabricated pieces.

Anyways, they will be using my car as a testbed for an FMIC kit and a turbo kit they will be fabricating. At the end of the fitment, testing phase they will offer me the parts for a deep deep discount (practically nothing). This is great!!

We will have to discuss specifics withthe turbo kit, but that will likely be something I do later. But I will jump on the FMIC and piping immediately.

In my few years in turbo exposure I've learned that an upgraded FMIC doesn't do much other than some pressure loss unless you're running a bigger turbo or much higher boost than stock. Is this correct? In my case I'm running a constant 20psi. Along with the MBC I have basic bolt-ons consisting of full TB exhaust w/ test pipe, walbro FP, MR DV, and perrin intake.

I'm excited about the increase in flow with the IC pipes, but will the larger upgraded FMIC do anyhting for me if I'm running 20-21 psi and stock turbo?
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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that is not entirely correct. an intercooler can greatly increase power on a stock car. the purpose of an IC is to cool the intake charge without causing too much backpressure in the system. a properly done IC can cool temps without having any pressure loss. that is the entire goal in making a proper IC, and why companies like Spearco spend so much time and money making a proper setup. because in the end you make more power and a better more efficent system!
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Makes a lot of sense... Especially since I live in one of the hottest places on earth! lol I guess it's a good move- since it's also coming at such a great price. Planning for the future as well.
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TEXSRT4
that is not entirely correct. an intercooler can greatly increase power on a stock car. the purpose of an IC is to cool the intake charge without causing too much backpressure in the system. a properly done IC can cool temps without having any pressure loss. that is the entire goal in making a proper IC, and why companies like Spearco spend so much time and money making a proper setup. because in the end you make more power and a better more efficent system!
I heard that if your using a stock turbo and your FMIC is too big(overkill) you will lose more power. You should choose which turbo upgrade you want and then select which FMIC to go with it.
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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While I don't have any hard evidence for this, I'm goina chime in and give my .02

A stock intercooler is probably good up until 350ish whp. After that it's time to upgrade.

HOWEVER, replacing piping is OK as long as it's shorter in length.

Adding an aftermarket IC might only drop a # or so, but the effects certainly wouldn't justify the $500+ cost.
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bolsen
While I don't have any hard evidence for this, I'm goina chime in and give my .02

A stock intercooler is probably good up until 350ish whp. After that it's time to upgrade.

HOWEVER, replacing piping is OK as long as it's shorter in length.

Adding an aftermarket IC might only drop a # or so, but the effects certainly wouldn't justify the $500+ cost.
Fair enough... Then in my case it's a good idea. After my cams I should be over that 350 mark.

As far as the piping goes, it's not all about legnth- it's about flow. Larger diameter piping, less pieces, and less bends is what you want.

A well made/fabricated core will not result in much PSI loss at all. And luckily for me the pipes and FMIC won't cost me much.
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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An upgraded front mount will help to prevent heat soak, too.
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by smp3000
I've recently come in contact with a shop out here who recently started fabricating products for the evo. They create some great quality fabricated pieces.

Anyways, they will be using my car as a testbed for an FMIC kit and a turbo kit they will be fabricating. At the end of the fitment, testing phase they will offer me the parts for a deep deep discount (practically nothing). This is great!!

We will have to discuss specifics withthe turbo kit, but that will likely be something I do later. But I will jump on the FMIC and piping immediately.

In my few years in turbo exposure I've learned that an upgraded FMIC doesn't do much other than some pressure loss unless you're running a bigger turbo or much higher boost than stock. Is this correct? In my case I'm running a constant 20psi. Along with the MBC I have basic bolt-ons consisting of full TB exhaust w/ test pipe, walbro FP, MR DV, and perrin intake.

I'm excited about the increase in flow with the IC pipes, but will the larger upgraded FMIC do anyhting for me if I'm running 20-21 psi and stock turbo?
Can u tell em who it is? PM me, I'll keep it hush-hush if you don't want to say.

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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by smp3000

As far as the piping goes, it's not all about legnth- it's about flow. Larger diameter piping, less pieces, and less bends is what you want.
2.5" is WAY plenty for IC piping.
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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That you are correct. 2.5 is what most upgraded pipe kits are... I think our stockers are 2.25'? Can someone confirm this?
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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Hmmm thought I responded to this already....

anyhow, I just went out an measured.... 2.25" it is.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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Thanks!
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