I dont know about alcohol injection...well for a daily driver anyways

a friend of mine was running really high boost using alcohol injection

the tank got low and the warning/safety light or whatever didnt let him know and he blew the motor

I guess you gotta really stay on top of it.

Not for me.. my evo is a daily driver and I just wanna drive it, fill it up with gas and oil when needed. not have to worry about all this other stuff. :-)

 

I agree - for someone who is not willing to frequently check the alcohol tank level this kit is prob not a good idea

 

dude u can always set the computer for it to start lets say at 21 psi and set ur car at 19 psi and it will never go on but when u goin out havin fun or racing blast that **** instant power safely a couple of PSI sure will make a HUGE DIFFERENCE

 

since we are all alcoholics now. LOL when will the meetings begin and on what night?
LOL should we bring our alcohol to our own AA meeting???

 

Yep. The same can be said about people who are unwilling to check their oil levels on a regular basis. They shouldn't be driving an Evo.

 

These kits kick some very serious butt.

I see some various concerns about things. Water vs. alky, safety etc. Here are some answers.

First off Buicks have been the major users of these kits over the years. The failure rate is basically ZERO. You can conduct your own search and find what is out there I am sure. I didn't bother as I am in the Buick community and don't know of anyone that has had one fail personally.

Next, since it has been in use with the Buick guys so much and so long most of the testing you guys are talking about has already been conducted, actually all of the testing. The best thing to run for performance is denatured alcohol. You can also use methanol which is MUCH cheaper but it is also MUCH more corrosive and will cause the pumps to not last as long. Water cannot be burned, it is only used for cooling. Alky on the other hand not only cools, it adds octane and combustionable material to the mix. The alky is the better performer. Think about it, you can only add so much water before it is going to cause a combustion problem. With the alky we have found you can really pour it in with little or no effect at all on power.

As for safety features. The controller used on our kits (Al's and ours are the same) are VERY high quality. They have 3 lights on the front to monitor what is going on. One tells you the system is armed and should be on any time the key is on. Another to let you know when the pump has been activated and is spraying alky. The last light is a warning light to let you know the alky level is getting low and needs to be filled.

As with anything you could have a failure, anything. If you blow off the line to your fuel pressure regulator the engine will blow, if your fuel pump fails or stops putting out good pressure you engine will blow, if you get bad gas your engine will blow. We are talking about performance cars here, there are so many things that can fail in your car already but nobody thinks about them on a day-to-day basis as you are all use to having them and just trust they are going to work. Not the case. The alky kits being "new" to the EVO community has raised a lot of worries that are quite honestly not really needed. The kits are of the highest quality and I don't feel will fail any more likely than many of the other parts on your car already.

Also, as a side note. The alky flash Al and I did at our shop was run without the alky just to see what would happen. As I had already posted NOTHING happened, which is a good thing. With the stock turbo we had the boost spiking as high as 25 psi and it would settle around 21 psi (if I remember right). When the alky was turned off and run the same way the tune was still safe enough that the car just pulled a couple of degrees of timing. No problem.

Thanks for reading.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

Very, very good investment ecspecially to all you guys that have 91oct or 92oct and cant run much boost. Here is the answer.......ALCOHOL. And since it sorta acts as a octane booster here is extra protection for when you do get that bad gas. When my car was tunned on some **** pour 91 oct. David couldnt pull hardly any timming or run any boost, and then the Alcohol, it made a world of difference. But as anything **** can happen so if your worried about it running out just keep in mind your driving habbits and check it the first couple of weeks that way you dont haft to wait until the low light comes on. I mean lets face it I'd much rather check my kit every now and again Vs. buying a new motor..

 

I understand that alcohol injection has been used for a while in several venues of automobile performance. It's just the nature of certain people to jump all over something in full promotion of it the second it is released that makes me uneasy.

 

Mitsuorder,
That is kind of my point, it isn't the second it is released, it has been out there for years. Just new to the EVO sector.

It's like not jumping on a small block Chevy for your streetrod because you never heard about them since you drove BMW's your entire life.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

I understand that completely, just putting into perspective why some may shy away, not the product just the history of certain promoters