Building up engine so I took some pictures of the process...
Hey diz, you should really listen to what you preach. You're the one hating, you're the one with blind eyes, and maybe you should look at it and appreciate the fact that he's showing a lot of people what they may have never seen.... The inside of their motor.
Yes, I've torn down motors, seen the guts, rebuilt them, and none of this was a surprise to me. That doesn't mean I should discount it, because he took the time to take pictures to share with us. And I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these guys just learned something.
Yes, I've torn down motors, seen the guts, rebuilt them, and none of this was a surprise to me. That doesn't mean I should discount it, because he took the time to take pictures to share with us. And I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these guys just learned something.
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thanks for the clean up mod!
and i say thank you for the pics...i for one never seen this engine apart. great pics and wonderful to capture the whole thing on camera. helps those that dont know learn. which is why we are all here. not hating
and i say thank you for the pics...i for one never seen this engine apart. great pics and wonderful to capture the whole thing on camera. helps those that dont know learn. which is why we are all here. not hating
Ditto. Thank you mods.
This thread is really a nice thing. It's nice to have pics of several angles with the motor out of the car, so I can look at things as reference. Great thread!
This thread is really a nice thing. It's nice to have pics of several angles with the motor out of the car, so I can look at things as reference. Great thread!
Originally Posted by Fiesty882
thanks for the clean up mod!
and i say thank you for the pics...i for one never seen this engine apart. great pics and wonderful to capture the whole thing on camera. helps those that dont know learn. which is why we are all here. not hating
and i say thank you for the pics...i for one never seen this engine apart. great pics and wonderful to capture the whole thing on camera. helps those that dont know learn. which is why we are all here. not hating
Joey, those pics are great. Out of curiousity. Is that price including labor on the engine rebuild, if so that is a sick deal. Looks so clean, when I look at that nice shiny engine, I would guess its the same feeling a girl gets when you show her a big diamond ring lol.
Sweet pics, good work.
Shane
Sweet pics, good work.
Shane
Thanks for the comments, I have seen several posts on the board before where someone had asked how one part of the engine or another worked and it is a lot easier to reference a picture then it is to try and explain with words. Someone was asking how our oil pumps worked and you can now look at a picture to see how it operates.
The re-assembly process has taken more time then it normally would because I have have taken the time to clean everything up before it went back on. I see no reason to put dirty parts back on an engine, I hate working on dirty parts! It just sucks when you get covered with grease and dirt when you are doing simple maintnance in the engine bay. I do not know how much Simply Green and towels/paper towels I have used, but it is substantial. And by the way, Simply Green works great, it is very safe to use and it just works. You can look at the picture of the engine bay itself and it is clean as well, I just like to keep it that way.
You can take a good guess as to why the oil pan is new!
The $2200 is the cost of the short block, the rest of the build is my doing. $2200 is a very, very good price for the short block though, this is the same place that built the engine in the MR-2 that one the Sport Compact Car shootout a few months back, they do exellent work.
I too have put togather many, many engines, but I think that this is the first time that I have taken the time to photograph the build. There are just a lot of people who have never seen what actually goes on inside.
I am looking forward to Shiv coming down here on the 19th-20th, I am curious to see what kind of numbers it makes. I went to a local muffler shop yesturday and picked up a few scrap pieces of tubing to play with, I need to practice welding aluminum as I do not have much experience with it. If all goes well I will be fabricating my own intercooler pipes to fit my specific application, if it works out I will put up some pictures of that as well along with the engine once it is dropped in. I am thinking about re-running some of the under hood wiring to clean the bay up, kind of tucking and hiding it, I will just have to see. I look at the pictures of the RnR shop car and the engine bay is just so clean, I really like that.
And MonOfaith, I am happy to hear that you are gettin gsome use out of that head!
More to come....
The re-assembly process has taken more time then it normally would because I have have taken the time to clean everything up before it went back on. I see no reason to put dirty parts back on an engine, I hate working on dirty parts! It just sucks when you get covered with grease and dirt when you are doing simple maintnance in the engine bay. I do not know how much Simply Green and towels/paper towels I have used, but it is substantial. And by the way, Simply Green works great, it is very safe to use and it just works. You can look at the picture of the engine bay itself and it is clean as well, I just like to keep it that way.
You can take a good guess as to why the oil pan is new!
The $2200 is the cost of the short block, the rest of the build is my doing. $2200 is a very, very good price for the short block though, this is the same place that built the engine in the MR-2 that one the Sport Compact Car shootout a few months back, they do exellent work.
I too have put togather many, many engines, but I think that this is the first time that I have taken the time to photograph the build. There are just a lot of people who have never seen what actually goes on inside.
I am looking forward to Shiv coming down here on the 19th-20th, I am curious to see what kind of numbers it makes. I went to a local muffler shop yesturday and picked up a few scrap pieces of tubing to play with, I need to practice welding aluminum as I do not have much experience with it. If all goes well I will be fabricating my own intercooler pipes to fit my specific application, if it works out I will put up some pictures of that as well along with the engine once it is dropped in. I am thinking about re-running some of the under hood wiring to clean the bay up, kind of tucking and hiding it, I will just have to see. I look at the pictures of the RnR shop car and the engine bay is just so clean, I really like that.
And MonOfaith, I am happy to hear that you are gettin gsome use out of that head!
More to come....
Last edited by USP45; Mar 4, 2005 at 10:05 AM.
What kind of hoist did you use to pull your drivetrain out? How high of a lift was required? The last motor rebuild I did was for an '85 911 and that required me to jack the *** end of the car up so the rear bumper was 42" off the ground. It was a huge pain in the ***, especially since I did the job by myself. The logistics of pulling the motor is the only thing holding me back from doing the actual swap by myself.
My father has a 1990 964 and we have had the engine out of that as well, I feel your pain!
I used a normal hoist to get it out, but I have found a kind of odd way of doing it that worked out very well. First off, you cannot pull the engine transmission out in one piece from the top, the drivers side tranny mount is a top mount, the tranny hangs from it. So I have the front end of the car up a good bit on jack stands and support the engine/transmission with the hoist. After the front member is out that has the front and rear mounts (three bolt connect it to the chassis) I lowered the whole thing to the ground. At this point it is possible to separate the tranmission from the engine (with a jack under the tranmission) and slide the tranny out from under the front. I found this to be much easier then trying to do it in the engine bay as you have a LOT more wiggle room. After the tranmission is separated I then hoisted the engine back up and came out over the top as the engine has too much height to get it out from under the bottom. It was very quick and clean. I have separated the transmission from the engine while in the engine bay to do a clutch and space was tight, dropping it down gave me a lot of room. I pulled the engine by myself with my wife working the hoist, she did a great job!
As an asside, get your G/F or wife to help you out, they feel like they accomplished something with you and it is then a lot easier to spend money on your car as they now have a little piece of the accomplishment. Trust me, it works! She did not even have to get dirty but she helped!
I used a normal hoist to get it out, but I have found a kind of odd way of doing it that worked out very well. First off, you cannot pull the engine transmission out in one piece from the top, the drivers side tranny mount is a top mount, the tranny hangs from it. So I have the front end of the car up a good bit on jack stands and support the engine/transmission with the hoist. After the front member is out that has the front and rear mounts (three bolt connect it to the chassis) I lowered the whole thing to the ground. At this point it is possible to separate the tranmission from the engine (with a jack under the tranmission) and slide the tranny out from under the front. I found this to be much easier then trying to do it in the engine bay as you have a LOT more wiggle room. After the tranmission is separated I then hoisted the engine back up and came out over the top as the engine has too much height to get it out from under the bottom. It was very quick and clean. I have separated the transmission from the engine while in the engine bay to do a clutch and space was tight, dropping it down gave me a lot of room. I pulled the engine by myself with my wife working the hoist, she did a great job!
As an asside, get your G/F or wife to help you out, they feel like they accomplished something with you and it is then a lot easier to spend money on your car as they now have a little piece of the accomplishment. Trust me, it works! She did not even have to get dirty but she helped!
Originally Posted by joeycoates
As an asside, get your G/F or wife to help you out, they feel like they accomplished something with you and it is then a lot easier to spend money on your car as they now have a little piece of the accomplishment. Trust me, it works! She did not even have to get dirty but she helped!
