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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 05:41 AM
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Should I make Ti IC pipes?

I'm trying to get a feel for it.
I know a guy that can make Ti intercooler pipes for our cars. Mandrel Bent, flanged, coated, etc. I'm going to get measured next week and post pics. I'm not interested in making money off this, just curious if anyone wants that kind of bling in their car and I'll make it happen.

I also posted in Classifieds.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=128975
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:02 AM
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oooh how much is the question. wow... mandrel bent ti huh? that's nuts! where you find a ti mandrel bender... like... 20 years ago there wasn't even a such thing! thank the US for the sr71 eh?

ok read your classified's post... this is awesome... 600 for the whole set eh? so it'll be flanged for the bov you mean?

just a few questions... i hear ti doesn't like other metals to be welded to it.. you got this part taken care of?

and which pipes will you be mocking off of? i suggest the ams pipes.

oh yeah... interested.

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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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I'm going to try to locate a pic of the AMS kit. This is work preliminary right now. The Ti mandrel bender is courtesy of a bunch of guys sitting around an airforce base with nothing to do... ;-)
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:31 AM
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how much weight would be saved from switching to Ti?
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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how much weight would be saved from switching to Ti?
2 lbs.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by EVOTEXAS
2 lbs.
then $600 is a lot for just bling
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ovenmit331
then $600 is a lot for just bling
Most people wont notice that its titanium
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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yeah you'll be lucky to save 2lbs. ti is actually heavier than al but stronger so you can use thinner matrerial.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:44 AM
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That's why I'm posting the question. The wieght saved from Ti is not alot, but it definitely would look cool if you are buying stuff like ARC Ti heatshields and radiator shrouds. The pricing of $600 is the high end ($450 would be the low end). I won't know until next week what the actual price should be.
For myself I may get a Ti upper for show and an Al lower for cost effectiveness.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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I would be very interested to see this setup as mandrel bent titanium is very very difficult to make. Ti is such a brittle metal that the bends end up having either a very large radius (won't work for piping) or are not true mandrels and will end up closer to crush bent. Also, the metal is somewhat difficult to find in any diameter bigger then 2". Al is a much better material for piping imo as it's heat dissipation properties are excellent, mandrels are easy to find and make, and is very lightweight.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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how is TI with heat transfer in comparison to other aftermarket IC pipes?
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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I didn't even know that it was possible to mandrel bend it locally, but we have 3 air force bases in OK and that's where the machinery for this is.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoG8r
I didn't even know that it was possible to mandrel bend it locally, but we have 3 air force bases in OK and that's where the machinery for this is.
It is defintely possible, just not in the radius you would need to pipe an fmic properly. You could probably do part of the upper pipe since it has minor angles, but the tightest U bends of Ti I've ever found are something like 12" radius. We have done some work with Ti including a complete Ti exhaust for the supra (hangers and everything.. 4", vband, 12 lbs, lol) and not only are the bends almost impossible to find and the wrong size, they are uber expensive.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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Ti is more durable then Al. Ti can with stand higher temps.
Ti does not disipate heat as fast as Al, but it the difference is small and it would be hard to measure outside of a lab.
Ti is for those that want something different under their hood. It would definitely stand out in a car show.
The guy I work with can flange for just about any BOV. The prototype with be flanged for a Greddy Type-S.
If we can't make the lower IC pipe work in Ti, I'm just going to order one in Al and then have him do the upper in Ti and also look at doing the intake tube.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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yeah, interested in lower ti ic pipes.

-john
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