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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 12:29 PM
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Question how "bullet proof" is the evo 5 speed?

well, il be running alot of mods right after the engine breaks in. im ganna be running around 400 hp by summer. i have 2 sponsors now, and should have 5 by summer. i need to know how strong this tranny and drivetrain components are. my stealth's AWD tranny ALWAYS was breaking, so all my money was being diverted towards repairs. i know now that the warrantee will go bye bye well before it should. so i decided to make a separate "repairs" bank account that i wont touch unless something is gone. but, how do they hold up to extra stress? how does the VC and center diff. and such hold up? this is the area i was alway breaking in the stealth. i went througha few sincros also in the stealth, but it doesnt look like il have that problem with the extra ones on the evo's gearing. what about the male output splines? i stripped these out on the stealth also. are the previous evos, mostly older ones, with tranny, and differentials leaking fluid?
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 12:52 PM
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I would think that the Evo trans should hold up under 400hp, but you need to look at the torque output. That's what chunks the transmissions. HP comes on later after you reached and pasted your maximum torque output.

Is that the list of pieces you plan on getting for your Evo?

Full Auto Timer - ok.
Air/Fuel - Waste - Get an oil psi or oil temp gauge
greddy profec e-01 - WHY?
Greddy e-mange - Again Why?
Greddy BOV - Not Needed.

Why spend your money on all those "ricey" pieces when you are gonna have FACTORY go fast parts right there at your dealer? Save your money get the Ralliart pieces and I'd be willing to bet the car will do exactly what you want with bolt-on's and you won't have to hack it to pieces.

Remember, Ralliart knows these cars far better than Greddy. Not that I have anything against Greddy. I just think you are barking up the wrong tree.
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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Keep in mind he's sponsored and the parts available from his sponsors may not coincide with what you think the ideal mods for an Evolution would be. I'm assuming he's upping the boost and toying with fuel ratios, not to mention the profec acts as an input device. If everyone tuned their cars the same way they wouldn't be much fun, would they?
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by 2GTSiAWD
I would think that the Evo trans should hold up under 400hp, but you need to look at the torque output. That's what chunks the transmissions. HP comes on later after you reached and pasted your maximum torque output.

Is that the list of pieces you plan on getting for your Evo?

Full Auto Timer - ok.
Air/Fuel - Waste - Get an oil psi or oil temp gauge
greddy profec e-01 - WHY?
Greddy e-mange - Again Why?
Greddy BOV - Not Needed.

Why spend your money on all those "ricey" pieces when you are gonna have FACTORY go fast parts right there at your dealer? Save your money get the Ralliart pieces and I'd be willing to bet the car will do exactly what you want with bolt-on's and you won't have to hack it to pieces.

Remember, Ralliart knows these cars far better than Greddy. Not that I have anything against Greddy. I just think you are barking up the wrong tree.
i plan on many other parts for the evo than on my list. those are the parts i already have here. other parts obviously cannot be made yet, the evo isnt out yet. also, none of those parts are "ricey." the greddy profect e-01 is THE BEST boost controller on the market. and hooked up with the e-manage, this duo cant be beat. i need the e-manage to controll fuel, air, datalog, etc. they have many aspects that rally art will not have, that i need. i will be running over 24 psi with my set-up.
and whats this about "greddy type r bov -not needd"?? are you serious? an aftermarket bov is a great mod, and a must. i know there is a stock bov on the car, but i dont want it leaking under high boost. none of these parts are "ricey," to be ricey, i wouldnt have this car to begin with. also, i dont want rally art parts because i believe they wont make near as much hp and torque as other parts i could get from my sponsor. and i dont want to pay out the *** for them. im not barking up the wrong tree, im going the right route, for ALOT of power. with my "ricey" set-up, i will be able to controll every aspect of the cars functioning and not pay out the *** for it. when i can afford a aem stand-alone, il get one. but i refuse to buy rally-art parts for this car. by the way, as i said, i have 2 sponsors, they wont carry rally art, i will get these great "ricey" parts that will give me alot of hp safely, for almost no money from my pocket.
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Old Jan 29, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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Is the EVO 8 Trans same as EVO 7?

I have read comments from a Trinidad tuner that the EVO 7 transmission has reliablity issues whereas the STI 6 speed is very reliable.

What have the UK tuners seen relative to reliablity of EVO transmissions?

I have a deposit on an EVO VIII as well as an STI and will have to make a decision in early March.

Thanks...

Speedlimit....
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 02:06 PM
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you'll be fine with the 5spd. its one of the strongest AWD transmissions ever made
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Old Feb 1, 2003 | 07:31 AM
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Yes, it probably is strong. But, the question comes back to the fact that the new EVO doesn't have the same tranny as the past cars did.. It's sounds like it's back to the same old tranny from the GSX's, with the exception of the mechanical limited slip rear diff.. But is the transfer case the same?? Cause that's the weak link with all the DSM's... That's my only worry really... My GSX never broke cause I don't tear my **** up, but all my buddies that dog theirs have had the transfer case go, over and over...
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Old Feb 1, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by Jonasan50
Yes, it probably is strong. But, the question comes back to the fact that the new EVO doesn't have the same tranny as the past cars did.. It's sounds like it's back to the same old tranny from the GSX's, with the exception of the mechanical limited slip rear diff.. But is the transfer case the same?? Cause that's the weak link with all the DSM's... That's my only worry really... My GSX never broke cause I don't tear my **** up, but all my buddies that dog theirs have had the transfer case go, over and over...
actually, its none the same as the gsx. if fact, from what i hear, its the same set-up as the evo VI. why would they keep the beefed up engine, and put in a ****ty transmission? the drivetrain will be strong too. even magazines know its the same 5 "bullet proof" 5 speed as in the rest. its the new 6 speed everyone else should be scared of.
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Old Feb 1, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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This is a little off topic but i'm studying engineering and i can usually tell you how something works, why it works etc. But when it comes to which brand i'm usually not up to par, can someone list say the top 3 company's as far as boost control, piggy backs for A/F etc., like the greddy e manage, turbo timer's and BOV's. I was researching some Blitz products and they seem to be top quality, i especially like the SBC i-D Boost controller, bit pricey though. And lastly, is the stand alone AEM computer a catch all, meaning what doest it control, beyond timing, fuel, and basic operations. Thanks in advance.
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Old Feb 1, 2003 | 11:12 PM
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the aem stand alone is most likely the best, but it cost 2000+. im not willing to spend that much right now, so i got the greddy profect e-01 and the emanage. the emanage seems to be the best piggy back style engine managment system right now. at least its better than the s-afc. it can controll injector sizes 110% the size of stock. so on the evo, i can have up to 1100cc injectors with it. also it can controll a second row or stage of injectors. i wasnt planning on going all greddy, but it seems i have as i bought greddy profect, emanage, type r bov, and their full auto timer. hell, i could probably get a sponsor from them now. i didnt mean to get all items from them, but when i was looking for the parts, i liked theirs the best.
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Old Feb 4, 2003 | 10:30 PM
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Well I am much satisfied if the info you provided is true.. Ref the 5 speed.. My goal is gonna be a modest 360hp... So that shouldn't be a problem...
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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Hey is claudius running his 2.2L 2.05 bar Evo 6 on the stock tranny???
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:32 PM
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hey im gettin an evo 8 on the first shipment and i want to put an lcd screen on the center console area. what's a good place to put it to make it look smooth?
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 12:45 AM
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Get the double din dash kit!
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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