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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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yep exactly what i say. They screwed up and they know it, they just dont understand how that small mistake can cause engine failer so i'm going to be giving them some info i printed out thanks to you guys!
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajun Power
I might guess that you might kinda have to in this one... I don't know too many gas stations that are going to fork over $$$ without a lawer.
hope not... they owner was very cooperative, hopefully when i talk to him later he will be the same after he finds out the price.

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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Good idea to go back and get the gas station attendant to put it in writing that he made a mistake BEFORE he changes his story. At least so far he is being honest.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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They definatley made a big mistake, but in a court room, what do you think they're going to determine was the culprit? The mods or the gas? I totally agree with you that they need to pay for repairs, but I'm not sure a judge will side with you. And in the owner's manual it does say you can use 87 in an emergency. That could hurt you. Well good luck and let us know how it went.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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One other suggestion... Siphon a little bit of gas out the tank and have it tested to make sure it was indeed 87. You said you were on E, so there probably wasn't much 94/93 remaining to mix with the 87. That would be your proof whether the guy admits it or changes his story.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Get it in writing!
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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I, along with a lot of people with Evo's have put regular gas in our cars (by mistake) and nothing ever happened to it. I even raced a couple of times and nothing blew. Maybe you had a lean tune? OR maybe you maxed out your stock injectors?

Who tuned your car?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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I've had a few poeple say it was definatly the gas. This doesnt happen to everyone, just got the right conditions and luck and I went right though the piston.

Tune was definatly not the cause, dont start those rumors. My a/f ratios are rich and tuned safe so that is definatly not the cause.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Thegame
They definatley made a big mistake, but in a court room, what do you think they're going to determine was the culprit? The mods or the gas? I totally agree with you that they need to pay for repairs, but I'm not sure a judge will side with you. And in the owner's manual it does say you can use 87 in an emergency. That could hurt you. Well good luck and let us know how it went.
but the point of court would cost both parties way too much money...its just easier and cost efficient to settle..remember...if they use coporate lawyers...they also have opportunity costs too...

this world doesn't operate on bottom line "who's right, who's wrong"....the world operates on bottom line money $$$$

you can bet these guys be the owner or Exxon have business insurance for stuff like this...I have a feeling if it was to go to court, it might be Exxon's lawyers.

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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajun Power
I STONGLY AGREE. They are going against a mfgr wanring sticker. They should be liable to some extent. They went against mfgr wanring sticker and it caused damage to your car. They should pay. Maybe next time the pump monkey will read the warning in the fuel door.
yes, but he also went against manufacturer warning when he modded his car

I think that is going to be your biggest problem...if your car was stock, there would be no question at all that the poor gas was at fault....but since you have extensive modifications (especially those to the ECU), I think you are going to find it more difficult to prove the gas caused the failure of your motor
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Dealer will back up your story if they are fixing it.
Common place for all of th Jiffy lube places to blow motors and just let insurance pay when they screw up. Gas stations have insurance too.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Correct, but would'nt the ecu retard timing where it detected knock (aka) "safe mode?"
It probably did but with his power levels and tune, even if it did retard timing, 87 octane is still gonna detonate at 24 psi
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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Wow that blows :-/
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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yeah the gas station is going to let the rep know and have them take care of it. The gas station owner is being very nice and understanding. he is cooperating with no problem thus far.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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but he also went against manufacturer warning when he modded his car
You mean the one where there were Asian dudes with spiky hair around modified Evos with neon and ****? And it said "Please don't Go Forth and Modify."
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