Intake Suggestions
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Intake Suggestions
I recently had a AEM Short Ram intake on my 03 Evo VIII and the car was shutting off alot. So I took it off and put the stock one back on. Now I need a new intake. So does anyone have any suggestions. And for those of you that are going to tell me to check the search, I did and I didnt find anything useful. Maybe im just stupid or something but I tried.
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STI_Hunter43
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STI_Hunter43
for an intake, you want the greatest flow and also good particulate removal. the k&n cone filter does a good job on the above. I got the vivid-agency power cone+adaptor for ~100, cant beat that. the hks intake i think is not "oiled" and does not remove fine dust. i'm in tucson arizona, and its dry and dusty here.
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Hey BraveHeart,
Is that ARC thing just a box or an entire intake kit. Or do I need it and another Intake. I also heard that the Weapon R Secret Weapon is really good. Does anyone know anything about it.
Is that ARC thing just a box or an entire intake kit. Or do I need it and another Intake. I also heard that the Weapon R Secret Weapon is really good. Does anyone know anything about it.
Originally Posted by STI_Hunter43
I recently had a AEM Short Ram intake on my 03 Evo VIII and the car was shutting off alot. So I took it off and put the stock one back on. Now I need a new intake. So does anyone have any suggestions. And for those of you that are going to tell me to check the search, I did and I didnt find anything useful. Maybe im just stupid or something but I tried.
Thanks,
STI_Hunter43
Thanks,
STI_Hunter43
Following are quotes from Dustin - some is offtopic regarding Xede etc, but there is some good info there:
Originally Posted by Dustin@Vishnu
Leif, you are exactly Right. The problem with intakes is that they produce false MAF readings. This is where the power is normally found, being that the false reading can lean the fuel mixture out. However, when we tune a car, leaning the fuel mixture is part of the process, which we control by the engine managment, not luck. Furthermore, these false readings are always consistant, meaning that even if we predict what the intake will induce in terms of a/f alteration, it may be wrong...thats why i use the term, "luck." And because they are inconsistant, the map may be optimal one pull, and not the next.
While other systems may be able to "handle" an air intake, they do not handle many other things, such as OBD2, weather changes, and gas changes. For me, i would gladly give up an intake that sucks in hot air, in exchange for all of the features listed above that they xede does handle. But, to each is their own.
While other systems may be able to "handle" an air intake, they do not handle many other things, such as OBD2, weather changes, and gas changes. For me, i would gladly give up an intake that sucks in hot air, in exchange for all of the features listed above that they xede does handle. But, to each is their own.
Originally Posted by Dustin@Vishnu
If you think about it...
Car companys spend tons and tons of money to make their cars get the best gas milege, and pass smog with ease. They way they do this is by making items on the car freeflowing. On the exhaust side there is power to be had, because of they exhaust components need to be quiet, and must have restrictive cats in order to pass smog. However, on the intake side they really dont have any restrictions to work around.
A CAI is an easy and cheap R and D project, that can be sold for a good chunk of change, so many companies are happy to offer them.
I personaly run a stock air box on my car.
Car companys spend tons and tons of money to make their cars get the best gas milege, and pass smog with ease. They way they do this is by making items on the car freeflowing. On the exhaust side there is power to be had, because of they exhaust components need to be quiet, and must have restrictive cats in order to pass smog. However, on the intake side they really dont have any restrictions to work around.
A CAI is an easy and cheap R and D project, that can be sold for a good chunk of change, so many companies are happy to offer them.
I personaly run a stock air box on my car.
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I have the TurboXS intake. I like it... I wanted to make the turbo and BOV louder more than really helping out with performance. Plus I got it from JCSpeed.com for like $100 shipped.
All of them screw with the MAF, you will need a tune no matter what.
I am bouncing back and forth between getting an intake and not, I cant decide between stock or the Apexi filter, you should look into it.
I am bouncing back and forth between getting an intake and not, I cant decide between stock or the Apexi filter, you should look into it.
it's how the stock airbox compressed the air for the karman vortex screen. Once you get open element, you'll loosing the control over compression inside the airbox as well as vortex generation.
Most of the problems on cone filters are that the air don't get compressed before entering the maf, which screws with the karman vortex meter.
Most of the problems with the flat panel boxes are that they don't create enough vortex for the compressed air which causes turbulence.
karman vortex type maf sensors are fairely sensitive about the vortex and turbulence. That's why stock box is recommended over few other types of intakes.
I really do wish someone will come up with a air box, instead of spending so much time on the filters.
It's the box that really does it for evos. What we need is a larger box with built in vortex generators. And yes, it's the fins that controls the turbulance, so you'll have a better flow of air in a better controlled environment. All that pre vortex honeycomb screen.
Most of the problems on cone filters are that the air don't get compressed before entering the maf, which screws with the karman vortex meter.
Most of the problems with the flat panel boxes are that they don't create enough vortex for the compressed air which causes turbulence.
karman vortex type maf sensors are fairely sensitive about the vortex and turbulence. That's why stock box is recommended over few other types of intakes.
I really do wish someone will come up with a air box, instead of spending so much time on the filters.
It's the box that really does it for evos. What we need is a larger box with built in vortex generators. And yes, it's the fins that controls the turbulance, so you'll have a better flow of air in a better controlled environment. All that pre vortex honeycomb screen.