View Poll Results: What would be your best stroker kit or complete engine?
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Best Stroker Kit and complete engine
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Originally Posted by Drag'nGT
Now I'm just guessing that anyone who wants a stroker kit is after some serious horsepower. The EMS and drivetrain will all have to be upgraded correct?
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Originally Posted by raptor77
just wondering if the stroker would work on a atp 3071r turbo kit. any probs with the ayc and wat kind of compression ratio?
. No probs now with my AYC.
Phillippine Evos. I do and have sold both, to be honest, Tomei is as good or better than Jun in my opinion, I kind of like the Tomei Rods better than Jun, also, Tomei makes all parts in house, Jun pistons are Cosworth. Tomei is 2.2 by the way.
Last edited by Crazy4Cars; May 18, 2005 at 05:12 PM.
Philippine what kind of act clutch do you use that can hold 700hp? I see the majority of people that are using stroker kits and getting near 700 hp are using the exedy triple carbon clutch... Just curious because there is a HUGE price difference. Thanks
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Originally Posted by 3240
I agree the the AMS fit would work fine. However, I like the fact that Crower includes a billet crank with their kit instead of a stock 4g64 crank. IMO Crower has the best kit on the market. It is currently being used in the RC Developments 900+HP Evo. If I could start my build over again it would be with the Crower kit. JUN is excellent but the Crower kit seems to be as good and a better value.
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Originally Posted by philippine_evos
So the kit of AMS were not developed and flowbenched by AMS itself but they simply outsourced the parts to create the kit? 
. If that is the case, no wonder why everyone is telling me it is cheaper. 
. If that is the case, no wonder why everyone is telling me it is cheaper. Why would you want a billet crank when you can get a forged crank, with a superior grain structure, that has journals that have already been nitrided?
Originally Posted by NDgsx
FLOWBENCHED ENGINE COMPONENTS? What in the sam hell are you talking about? We are still talking about short block components here right?
Why would you want a billet crank when you can get a forged crank, with a superior grain structure, that has journals that have already been nitrided?
Why would you want a billet crank when you can get a forged crank, with a superior grain structure, that has journals that have already been nitrided?
aren't billet components stronger than forged?
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That depends on the material used, the quailty of the forged crank you are comparing it to, and the how well the journals fillet radius is machined. All things equal, yes a solid billet 4340 crank IS stronger than a well manufactured forged crank. Typically a forged crank is 85-90% as strong as it's billet counterpart, it's not a large difference in strength. Unless you're shooting for over 800whp I wouldn't bat an eye at using a OEM crank.
The ONLY OEM crank failures I have ever seen were all either attributed to a problem with the fillet radius on a crank that had been turned or a harmonic dampener issue (either the pulley was sepereating or they were running a solid crank pulley).
The ONLY OEM crank failures I have ever seen were all either attributed to a problem with the fillet radius on a crank that had been turned or a harmonic dampener issue (either the pulley was sepereating or they were running a solid crank pulley).
Cool thread!
Does Jun or Tomei make 2.3L/2.4L as a special order ? which one would be the best stroker kit if I'm planning to rev upto 9500RPM ~ 10,000RPM ? or is it that 9k is max that even an upgraded internal can handle ?
Right now I have JUN on my list as a stroker kit + AMS GTxxR Turbo Kit.... for future upgrades
Does Jun or Tomei make 2.3L/2.4L as a special order ? which one would be the best stroker kit if I'm planning to rev upto 9500RPM ~ 10,000RPM ? or is it that 9k is max that even an upgraded internal can handle ?
Right now I have JUN on my list as a stroker kit + AMS GTxxR Turbo Kit.... for future upgrades
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Originally Posted by RS2
Cool thread!
Does Jun or Tomei make 2.3L/2.4L as a special order ? which one would be the best stroker kit if I'm planning to rev upto 9500RPM ~ 10,000RPM ? or is it that 9k is max that even an upgraded internal can handle ?
Does Jun or Tomei make 2.3L/2.4L as a special order ? which one would be the best stroker kit if I'm planning to rev upto 9500RPM ~ 10,000RPM ? or is it that 9k is max that even an upgraded internal can handle ?
If you use a 4G64 block (2.4L) with the 6mm higher deck you can use 156mm rods for a 1.56 rod ratio, that will rev to 9k. Talk to Marco at Magnus Motorsports for that setup.
