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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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80 degrees or something like that
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Those dynos read low. The important part is the gain and not so much the finale numbers.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Low, but not at a point where there is 50whp difference between one dyno to the next.

I know my car is bit stronger then most I've encountered far as the mods and gain goes and all cars are different and tuning makes it different as well...


what was the base line dyno before all that?
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by plokivos
that's pretty low numbers for a car that's tuned with those mods.

unless there's something wrong with your bov or your piping tapers, you should at least get around 260 or more with tune.

i have tbe, mbc, flash, stock everything else and got 302/315.


Question... are these numbers with a HFC vs test pipe vs stock cat?? I was wondering because thats my next feat for me ...
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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201 stock, that seems low? +50 w/tuning is good . how much did it cost total? thanx
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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Those numbers seem a little low. Are they SAE corrected??
We have a Mustang Dyno and usually a stock EVO with just AEM ONLY will give you about 275.
NO OTHER mods.
Usually an EVO with AFC, MBC, Lower IC Pipe and exhaust will be around 270 - 275 also.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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People remember - the peak number is not important

I would be more interested in the gains from when the car came in on the base line stock pull to the after when it was fully tuned - that is all that matters
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by plokivos
no dynojet.

but even on mustang dyno, it shouldn't be that low.
But that's also on 93 oct for you and 91 oct for him...big difference. Even moreso if you have a test pipe while he has a HFC.

Additionally, you dyno +20whp and +55wtq over me, but do are you that much faster in the 1/4-mile? I'm not sure, since I haven't seen your timeslips. I do 12.64 at 108 on a 1.75 60', so use that for comparison. I don't know how much that 55 extra tq helps in terms of MPH, but I would expect 110+ on pump gas and somewhere around a 12.4? As I've been saying and as I detailed in my dyno comparison thread, the real test is at the track, not just the peak numbers everyone claims.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Dyno-Comp uses a Dyno Dynamics NOT Mustang.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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my dynograph is showing, same mods, before and after tuning.

but i don't think that was the final number since i think i'm pulling timing around 5.5k rpm, so it was bit de-tuned.

that's tbe without cat, hallman mbc. used stock filter with stock box with stock everything else.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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what are you on crack? I used 93 quick trip gas with that dyno. I have never put race gas in my car.

also, i really could give a flying f, about drag racing. Beside, we'll see how you do down here at 100 degree scorching heat and humidity when you do your 1/4 mile.

besides, i haven't really seen a video of you running, so I honestly don't buy your timing. It's either you're tuned to have it very lean, and you use race gas mixed with your regular gas.

I auto-x, and do mountain runs, i don't care if you go faster than me in 1/4 mile, just because you live your life "1/4 miles at a time".

loser.

I think if I actually ran on c16, lean it out with my SAFC, I would run faster than you can at the same track you've ran.

That's the end of that discussion.

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But that's also on 93 oct for you and 91 oct for him...big difference. Even moreso if you have a test pipe while he has a HFC.

Additionally, you dyno +20whp and +55wtq over me, but do are you that much faster in the 1/4-mile? I'm not sure, since I haven't seen your timeslips. I do 12.64 at 108 on a 1.75 60', so use that for comparison. I don't know how much that 55 extra tq helps in terms of MPH, but I would expect 110+ on pump gas and somewhere around a 12.4? As I've been saying and as I detailed in my dyno comparison thread, the real test is at the track, not just the peak numbers everyone claims.

btw, i do agree about 1 point. it doesn't matter how much power you have, if it doesn't perform at whatever you do on the track.

but my point was that his numbers do look low compare to what others are getting with his mods.

do a search, i've just saw 3 with same numbers that's about 15whp higher.

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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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sounds right to me, i put down 251/255 on mustang dyno with mbc@21, mail in dynoflash, 3" tbe with cat del. puts down 275 on other dyno. afr is pretty safe, but never drops too low. Im sure i could pick up a little more with custom tune.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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Dyno Comp uses a Dyno Dynamics dynomometer
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by plokivos
what are you on crack? I used 93 quick trip gas with that dyno. I have never put race gas in my car. also, i really could give a flying f, about drag racing. Beside, we'll see how you do down here at 100 degree scorching heat and humidity when you do your 1/4 mile. besides, i haven't really seen a video of you running, so I honestly don't buy your timing. It's either you're tuned to have it very lean, and you use race gas mixed with your regular gas. I auto-x, and do mountain runs, i don't care if you go faster than me in 1/4 mile, just because you live your life "1/4 miles at a time".

loser.

I think if I actually ran on c16, lean it out with my SAFC, I would run faster than you can at the same track you've ran. That's the end of that discussion.
Hmm, first of all, was "loser" necessary? You have so many flawed points here, that I don't know where to begin...

1) Why would I be on crack? You dyno'd on 93; he dyno'd on 91. That makes quite a difference...anywhere from 10-20whp, because you get more knock at the same boost and tuning level, which means you have to be more conservative with boot and afr/timing.

2) Yeah, I've heard the heat argument. You assume it doesn't get hot and humid up here. Let's compare: Tomorrow, you will have a high of 90 with a max humidity of 68%. Here, we will have a high of 82 with the same max humidity. Yesterday, you had a high of 91; we had a high of _95_! Is it hotter in Atlanta on average? Yes, I know, because I GRADUATED HS at Chattahooche and went to GaTech, but is it so significant that I wouldn't be able to duplicate my times? No. My 12.2s were done in 80 degree weather with 60% humidity, not much better than what you'll experience in the worst part of July.

3) There are 2 timeslips in my sig; sorry I don't have videos yet. I'll make sure people tape me at the Evo Vs WRX shootout for proof. Or, if GsuJeff comes, he can tell you firsthand.

4) Uh, my sig says 99oct...I've said the whole time that I got those ets/mphs on a mix of 104/93 unleaded. It's not big time race gas, but it let me raise boost and lean out some more. I will be tossing on a 3" dp/tp for the Shootout, which means I'll be able to run C16 like you mentioned later in this post, but that's to break into the 11s on stock cams, not to duplicate my 12.2s. On straight 93 pump, I ran a 12.64 at 106 on the stock clutch and had a best of 107.xx.

5) So what, since I am a good drag racer, it means I don't auto-x, too? In fact, I auto-x FAR MORE than I drag race. I go to the drag strip to get real world proof of what my dynochart is telling me and to make sure my mods have been useful. I take that knowledge and then go kick *** in autocrosses. I took first place in my last auto-x, and now I have a 2-day SCCA Divisional this weekend. Who said I live my life a 1/4-mile at a time? It seems you rely on a dyno reading to tell if you if your car is fast instead of proving it on the track.

6) I would love to see you beat me with c16 and self-tuning on the same track or ANY track. Of course, c16 is far better than 104 unleaded, and I still have the stock cat/dp, but if you think you can run 12.1, please be my guest! I'd love to see you do it...
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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I had the same mods you have when i got dynod, only difference is that im using an afc-2. It was also a mustang dyno, I put down 270 whip and 247 or something torque. Im happy with my numbers, I think the heat is whats killing it.
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