New Buschur Lower IC Pipe
that is stainless huh... how much?
http://www.buschurracing.com/new_parts.html
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how the hell is it that much money? it's not even aluminum...
http://www.buschurracing.com/new_parts.html
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how the hell is it that much money? it's not even aluminum...
Last edited by trinydex; Aug 10, 2005 at 12:32 AM.
Stainless ocsts more than aluminum, stainless will not rot from salt, holds it's shine and keeps the charge air temps inside the pipe cooler. This is also lighweight 304 grade stainless. The part is CNC mandrel bent but cannot be just bent as the bends are too close for the die in the bender. We have to then bring it in, cut it and fixture it up in the jig and weld it back together. It is then bead rolled and includes two couplings and 4 clamps.
One of the couplings is a 1.75" to 2.5" transition coupling, not cheap.
Too much for you? Other people make them cheaper, sorry that we can't.
I will look into using the pipe on our standard FMIC kit, just need a car to check it on.
Also, sorry timzcat, I wrote on your invoice, "Already has couplings", the shipper, my dad, saw that and assumed you had them both. The other one is on its way to you.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
One of the couplings is a 1.75" to 2.5" transition coupling, not cheap.
Too much for you? Other people make them cheaper, sorry that we can't.
I will look into using the pipe on our standard FMIC kit, just need a car to check it on.
Also, sorry timzcat, I wrote on your invoice, "Already has couplings", the shipper, my dad, saw that and assumed you had them both. The other one is on its way to you.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Stainless ocsts more than aluminum, stainless will not rot from salt, holds it's shine and keeps the charge air temps inside the pipe cooler. This is also lighweight 304 grade stainless. The part is CNC mandrel bent but cannot be just bent as the bends are too close for the die in the bender. We have to then bring it in, cut it and fixture it up in the jig and weld it back together. It is then bead rolled and includes two couplings and 4 clamps.
One of the couplings is a 1.75" to 2.5" transition coupling, not cheap.
Too much for you? Other people make them cheaper, sorry that we can't.
I will look into using the pipe on our standard FMIC kit, just need a car to check it on.
Also, sorry timzcat, I wrote on your invoice, "Already has couplings", the shipper, my dad, saw that and assumed you had them both. The other one is on its way to you.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
One of the couplings is a 1.75" to 2.5" transition coupling, not cheap.
Too much for you? Other people make them cheaper, sorry that we can't.
I will look into using the pipe on our standard FMIC kit, just need a car to check it on.
Also, sorry timzcat, I wrote on your invoice, "Already has couplings", the shipper, my dad, saw that and assumed you had them both. The other one is on its way to you.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Stainless ocsts more than aluminum, stainless will not rot from salt, holds it's shine and keeps the charge air temps inside the pipe cooler. This is also lighweight 304 grade stainless. The part is CNC mandrel bent but cannot be just bent as the bends are too close for the die in the bender. We have to then bring it in, cut it and fixture it up in the jig and weld it back together. It is then bead rolled and includes two couplings and 4 clamps.
One of the couplings is a 1.75" to 2.5" transition coupling, not cheap.
One of the couplings is a 1.75" to 2.5" transition coupling, not cheap.
Also wouldn't CNC bending be produced in 1 pc?
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Also, sorry timzcat, I wrote on your invoice, "Already has couplings", the shipper, my dad, saw that and assumed you had them both. The other one is on its way to you.
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Originally Posted by Str8Ryda
From my understanding aluminum cost more than "304 stainless" but "321 stainless" is more expensive than aluminum. What kind of aluminum are you talking about? T6? I know T6 is the cheapest aluminum when it comes to tubing. Can you please clariify the grade of aluminum? Thanks in advanced!
Also wouldn't CNC bending be produced in 1 pc?
Also wouldn't CNC bending be produced in 1 pc?
If your piping is CNC bent in 1 pc and then you cut it up to weld them back together... What is the purpose of having them CNC???
I was under the impression that CNC was to promote accuracy and repeatability. Wouldn't you be changing the geometry of the pipe by cutting it?
Lastly, you made the statement of "304 Stainless" being more expensive than Aluminum. Could you please respond to my question earlier regarding which type of Aluminum are you referencing?
they have to weld it because they made the bends even tighter. they just have it bent on the machine to get the angles... then they cut parts out so they can make the pipe shorter.
you can tell lookin' at the picture the down to sideways bend is very short... looks like i'd be impossible to make on a bender. so they make like a u bend and then cut it and weld it together sorta perpendicular.
you can tell lookin' at the picture the down to sideways bend is very short... looks like i'd be impossible to make on a bender. so they make like a u bend and then cut it and weld it together sorta perpendicular.
Last edited by trinydex; Aug 11, 2005 at 07:54 PM.
Do you have both of the couplings in stock now? I ordered on Tuesday and they put my order through but then called me back and told me they weren't in stock so they hadn't shipped it yet...
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Originally Posted by trinydex
they have to weld it because they made the bends even tighter. they just have it bent on the machine to get the angles... then they cut parts out so they can make the pipe shorter.
you can tell lookin' at the picture the down to sideways bend is very short... looks like i'd be impossible to make on a bender. so they make like a u bend and then cut it and weld it together sorta perpendicular.
you can tell lookin' at the picture the down to sideways bend is very short... looks like i'd be impossible to make on a bender. so they make like a u bend and then cut it and weld it together sorta perpendicular.
But what I'm confused about is having it produced by a CNC. The purpose of CNC production is to increase precision and accuracy. There are many other types of mandrel benders that are considered "manual" (still hydraulic machines without the computer control) which can preform equally to produce this pipe.
Basically, once the 1pc CNC production pipe is cut it is no different from one being produced on a manual bender.. from the quality stand point they are almost identical because now there is a person assembling (rotating, cutting, evaluating/determining the length, welding, etc.) the pipe not the machine.
At this point biggest difference between the CNC and manual mandrel bender is the $$$$. Since the CNC's cost alot more than a manual bender the $$$$ get passed along to us.
So where I'm coming from is... if this pipe can not be 1pc CNC... wouldn't it be nicer if we can all save a little $$$$.