Then read the chart above and decide if waiting until close redline to build full boost is what you really want for a street driven car. It'll be slower than a comparably equipped car with a smaller turbo, but you seem more concerned with saving money, so there it is.

 

id go a 35r since its pruven on an evo already, youll be happier in the end

 

my car made full boost at 4,700 with the sc-61 i dont know 6,600

 

SC61 is a very nice turbo....but ball bearing 3076R's and 35R's rock!

 

Hate to bring up an old post, but when could you see spool up on this turbo w/supporting mods, 272 cams and ofcourse tuned properly on a Evo 8? And also what's an "S cover"?

 

Get the GT35r it will propell you to 10 sec passes with no problem.

 

Converting to a (much) larger turbo costs money, and IMO, is not territory for penny-pinching. The only reason one would consider an SC61 is because he/she is trying to save money. In my experience, trying to save nickels and dimes when considering larger turbos usually leads to some degree of disappointment, and there appears to be some risk of this associated with this turbo (which is why it isn't popular in this application).

I've made cost-cutting decisions before and regretted them. Never however, have I made a decision to do something as well as it could be done and regretted it. It always ends up costing more to go back and make it right.

Just a bit of wisdom to consider.

 

I totally agree with that statement about doing it right the first time.

However, I must disagree with everyone's bashing the SC61 turbo for bad spool time. It all depends on your conifguration. I had this turbo on my car with the 3" inlet, 5 bolt .63 A/R turbine housing with the Stage 5 turbine wheel on a JDM EVO7 Engine that was bored .020 over with 9.1 wiseco's bone stock head, upgraded 3" thich intercooler, hard pipes, 3" exhaust and a standalone. I was spooling to 22psi at 4800-5000 depending on load. I do agree it was hard to build boost in 1st gear unless you were banging off the 2 step. I guess alot of the spool time has to do with the tune also. Thats just my experience with it, do whatever you wish.

 

I don't have first-hand experience with this particular turbo, but from this, it appears to be laggier than a GT35R (which is expected for a similarly sized non-BB unit), and it makes less power.

One has to decide if this is really worth saving 6-7% of the cost of a large turbo kit (purchase + install).

 

I agree partially, but I use to be an avid Honda guy prior to my Evo. And the SC61 was a VERY popular turbo on these smaller 1.8L motors and was recommended by many to hit 500whp, just trying to figure out why they aren't as popular w/our larger 2.0L motors. Would VTEC play a factor? I understand nickle & diming will come out less in the long run, but I don't think that's the case here. We all can agree that the GT35R is a pretty expensive turbo but has been tried & true....but if there's something out there that's comparable and costs much less with having to deal with just a little more lag, I'm sure many ppl would be more interested instead of jumping on the GT craze. I spoke with Garrett at Nopi in Atlanta last year, and their own words were yes the SC61 is very comparable to their GT35R in terms of hp rating, especially the newer GT3561 w/the GT35R exhaust wheel. Didn't bash Precision one bit. Just simply stated that their turbos had a newer technology and offered a little more response. For a drag car this could be very important, but for a street car maybe not as much. I agree they're probably the best turbos out on the market now, but my tuner once told me "is it really worth double the money just to spool a few more rpms faster and make around the same horsepower in the long run? that's totally a personal choice, nothing about trying to be cheap or save money". But ofcourse If we all had that kind of money, we'd all be rockin the GT turbos.

 

I'd love to see a dyno comparison between the GT35R and the PTE GT3561 on the same car running the same boost and see the different characteristics. That would be the best way possible for ppl to decide which turbo would be best for them considering their golas and cash flow