19psi?!!
19psi?!!
Knowing that the Evo's max boost pressure is 19psi that kind of seems high doesn't it? I mean even the WRX is below 15 stock. With this high of boost doesn't it make tuning that much harder?
2.0 bar is MEGA boost. I doubt that the fuel system would be capable of handling that stock?! Running that high of boost are there any viable options to run that on the street w/o race gas? I've heard water injection and propane injection.
Any thoughts?
With 19psi at WOT at 3500rpm...this seems like it should be high enough to have a total hp of close to 300hp..maybe with an ecu swap?
Any thoughts?
With 19psi at WOT at 3500rpm...this seems like it should be high enough to have a total hp of close to 300hp..maybe with an ecu swap?
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Yeah, that's around 26 PSI. Over that, it produces heat and pressure but not more power. Not with stock manifold, head and cams anyway.
FYI the WRC runs 1.8 relative boost as well. But on a different turbo.
To run 26 PSI, you need a better fuel pump and a fuel pressure regulator to avoid injector duty cycle over 90%
It is NOT recommended to run over 22-23 PSI on stock pistons and rods.
FYI the WRC runs 1.8 relative boost as well. But on a different turbo.
To run 26 PSI, you need a better fuel pump and a fuel pressure regulator to avoid injector duty cycle over 90%
It is NOT recommended to run over 22-23 PSI on stock pistons and rods.
Originally posted by Claudius
With 23 PSI and a programmable ECU you're looking at around 360 bhp (on gas from your local gas station).
With 23 PSI and a programmable ECU you're looking at around 360 bhp (on gas from your local gas station).
--bobby
What about Sunoco 115? I live about a mile from a small airport.. Mostly piston engine planes.. I used to run that in my race car but it was leaded gas at the time, and I still mixed it with 93/95 octane premium.. There's always unleaded cam2 at $5 a gallon..
Originally posted by MalibuJack
What about Sunoco 115? I live about a mile from a small airport.. Mostly piston engine planes.. I used to run that in my race car but it was leaded gas at the time, and I still mixed it with 93/95 octane premium.. There's always unleaded cam2 at $5 a gallon..
What about Sunoco 115? I live about a mile from a small airport.. Mostly piston engine planes.. I used to run that in my race car but it was leaded gas at the time, and I still mixed it with 93/95 octane premium.. There's always unleaded cam2 at $5 a gallon..

--bobby
Can you run that high of boost and just retard the timing so that you can run on lower octane, albeit at a lower power level than not retarding timing?
I'd like to know how far I can take this car and still use pump 93. I want a street-legal terror, but usable for a Sunday drive if I want.
Also, would using a water injection help me to run at pump octane levels and that high of boost?
I'd like to know how far I can take this car and still use pump 93. I want a street-legal terror, but usable for a Sunday drive if I want.
Also, would using a water injection help me to run at pump octane levels and that high of boost?
In my DSM i never ruined any cats with running leaded race fuel. It will though from my experiance put a hurting on your O2 sensor over the long run. I have made about 40 dragstrip vists without any damage to my O2 sensor. I have seen them go bad in friends DSM's though.
Originally posted by Claudius
It is NOT recommended to run over 22-23 PSI on stock pistons and rods.
It is NOT recommended to run over 22-23 PSI on stock pistons and rods.
Originally posted by BobbyD
i repeat cannot run 23psi on pump gas regardless of fuel and engine management upgrades.. (especially in ca) only way you can run that high is with race gas..
i repeat cannot run 23psi on pump gas regardless of fuel and engine management upgrades.. (especially in ca) only way you can run that high is with race gas..
Have you guys datalogged anything to confirm these comments? Just curious because I run 22 psi on a slow day on 91 octane just fine, but I have a bigger, more efficient turbo and a big fmic.
Originally posted by 91TB78
With 19psi at WOT at 3500rpm...this seems like it should be high enough to have a total hp of close to 300hp?
With 19psi at WOT at 3500rpm...this seems like it should be high enough to have a total hp of close to 300hp?
Last edited by Van; Mar 12, 2003 at 11:50 PM.



