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Aug 25, 2005 | 01:45 PM

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Thats what I went with. IIRC stock setup is 256/252.

I thought that stock was 260/256.

Aug 25, 2005 | 01:51 PM

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I thought that stock was 260/256.

You could be right, I cant find the thread that mentions it now.

Aug 25, 2005 | 01:53 PM

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You'll be more confused after going through this thread. :-)

Aug 25, 2005 | 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jrod@Buschur

As for cam gears we have always recommended to run stock cam gears over adjustable. For example using HKS cames for a good daily driver I would recommend straight 264's or I would go with the 264 in / 272 ex. For a Street / Track / Strip car I would recommend 264in. / 272ex. or straight 272's. If you are looking for a really agressive cam that makes good power on a large turbo as Eric stated I would go with the 280's. You can run straight 272's on a daily drive if you would like but I know some people do not care for a lopey idle, and sometimes if not tuned properly they can cut down on driveability. I hope this helps.

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Why not work with adjustable cam gears? Just asking. We recently installed a 272/272 setup and after some advance in timing and several dyno runs we had more power and torque all throughout than when we ran it without any adjustments.

Aug 25, 2005 | 11:08 PM

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Yeah I was just about to ask this same question. Seems to me as if having the ability to adjust shouldn't hurt, but then again I'm somewhat new to all of this

I also had a question that has been discussed in other threads, but I am just hoping to get some updated info and perhaps info from more people w/ experience... Has anybody used Buddy Club cams? How do they work, and has anyone ever compared them w/ HKS cams? Buddy Clubs seem to be less $ on the little bit of Internet shopping that I have done. If anyone has anymore info on them, that'd be cool.

Aug 25, 2005 | 11:12 PM

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Can someone provide some insight on 264/272 vs 272/264?

Aug 25, 2005 | 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by trevor

Yeah I was just about to ask this same question. Seems to me as if having the ability to adjust shouldn't hurt, but then again I'm somewhat new to all of this

Our 272/272 was done with buddy club cams. We gained 16whp with them on a dynodynamic. I'm sure with a flash we could really extract more power out of them. I'll post the dyno sheets if anybody cares to see them. I think that Buddy Club makes quality products, and they are a bit on the less expensive side which is also a plus.

Aug 25, 2005 | 11:45 PM

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Adjustable cam gears can slip time. That is the reason why some people don't like them.
For the little power you gain it's not worth $2000 or in risk. Plain and simple.

Aug 26, 2005 | 07:17 AM

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We use 272s on our shop EVO 500+ h.p. but also on my Street EVO, 300+. Only way to define "THE BEST" is to compare all these cams head to head and in various combinations. It would make a great tech article for a magazine.

ROAD/RACE

Aug 26, 2005 | 10:14 AM

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I agree with Jrod

Aug 29, 2005 | 09:54 AM

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Can someone provide some insight on 264/272 vs 272/264?

On the stock turbo, both provide very similar peak hp numbers. But the 272/264 intake/exh combo seems to hold better power in the 7000-7800rpm range in exchange for a little less torqe just after spool-up (3800-4000rpm). Basically, it doesn't have that cute little torque spike/sharp angle in the midrange. Basically a trade off.

hope that helps,
shiv

Aug 29, 2005 | 10:06 AM

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less neck-break affect with the smaller exhaust cam.

You have a lot less room to improve on the power band with a small exhaust cam there. The more power you add, or free up on the car, the more you need a big exhaust cam.

Sep 6, 2005 | 03:18 PM

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bump, anyone else want to chime in?

Sep 6, 2005 | 03:34 PM

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i don't have cams but i want them really bad.....almost as bad as i want that a$$ in your avtor.

i went for i ride in xiaoni420 car

3" Turboback
Grounding Kit
HKS SSBV
Walbro 255lhp
Hallman MBC short kit
GSC 272's
AEM EMS
Precision Dyno Tuned

i was going to get 264/264s but his car did not stop pulling!!! the only thing i can compare it to was my friends Vtech Integra with a 100 shot........so now im thinking about GSC 272/272s