Independent Oil study...
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Independent Oil study...
I know that the "what oil do you use" has been beat into everyone's ancestors. Hell they're dead what will they feel ;-)
Anyway, I've had this 'Engine Oil Filter Study' site forever which was has a great wealth of knowledge - http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/oil_filter_study/
Does anyone know of a site that has also studied the different oil manufactures?? I mean does Royal Purple, Redline, or any of these others that are out there really worth the price and do what they say over such oils as M1 and Castrol, etc?
Now I'm not asking for opinions, so please don't put them here. I.E. "well I use brand X and it works great!". This is not what I or I'm sure the rest of us are looking for. Besides that kinda crap has already been through the ringer.
In fact, I'm looking for tests and studies like the oil filter one above or studies like this one on Air filters - http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm
If a site does exist with this kind of info, please be so kind to post it here.
Thanks.
Joey
Anyway, I've had this 'Engine Oil Filter Study' site forever which was has a great wealth of knowledge - http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/oil_filter_study/
Does anyone know of a site that has also studied the different oil manufactures?? I mean does Royal Purple, Redline, or any of these others that are out there really worth the price and do what they say over such oils as M1 and Castrol, etc?
Now I'm not asking for opinions, so please don't put them here. I.E. "well I use brand X and it works great!". This is not what I or I'm sure the rest of us are looking for. Besides that kinda crap has already been through the ringer.
In fact, I'm looking for tests and studies like the oil filter one above or studies like this one on Air filters - http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm
If a site does exist with this kind of info, please be so kind to post it here.
Thanks.
Joey
bobistheoilguy.com
Entire forum dedicated to OIL!!!
WAAYY more than enough **** to read.
P.S. Ill save you time and tell you to search for "German Castrol" aka "GC" over there
:comic book guy: best oil ever :comic book guy:
Entire forum dedicated to OIL!!!
WAAYY more than enough **** to read.
P.S. Ill save you time and tell you to search for "German Castrol" aka "GC" over there
:comic book guy: best oil ever :comic book guy:
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Yeah I've seen this, but again its a forum that talks about ppl's opinions (i.e. "I THINK this is the best oil" senerio). I've read through a ton of the messages there and it's all based off opinions.
There is a good amount of info on oil but not like independent tests on a bunch of different oil brands like redline, royal purple, M1, etc. He did do a generic test somewhere on there about Schaeffers vs Amsoil. That was about it. The rest is just info on how oil works, breaks down, etc. A good amount of info but nothing like the two links I provided. There has got to be something out there that does oil tests simular to the two links I put up.
Now I saw that they were starting a collection to do oil tests but nothing just yet has come about.
There was some good info as far as where to get your oil tested and such. Which I'm going to be doing in the future.
There is a good amount of info on oil but not like independent tests on a bunch of different oil brands like redline, royal purple, M1, etc. He did do a generic test somewhere on there about Schaeffers vs Amsoil. That was about it. The rest is just info on how oil works, breaks down, etc. A good amount of info but nothing like the two links I provided. There has got to be something out there that does oil tests simular to the two links I put up.
Now I saw that they were starting a collection to do oil tests but nothing just yet has come about.
There was some good info as far as where to get your oil tested and such. Which I'm going to be doing in the future.
Last edited by Joey B; Sep 7, 2005 at 07:23 PM.
I use what my grandpa and father use, Mobil 1 synthetic. No reason to fix what works. The fact that Mitsubishi used it to prevent the guys who flog their cars right off the lot and/or neglect them in some fashion from being warranty expenses speaks volumes.
If you can find the research for which you're looking that would state otherwise I would happily switch.
Bump.
Tom
If you can find the research for which you're looking that would state otherwise I would happily switch.
Bump.
Tom
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I agree with you ^^
I've used Mobil 1 on just about every car I've owned. But along the lines of "don't fix what isn't broken" also goes along with "well we've always done it that way" doesn't always mean something better isn't out there.
Hence my search. I used to use Fram and some of the other filters out there until I got the information to make a good choice in filters. Seeing what goes into them is something fram wouldn't want you to know.
Anyhow thanks for the bump.
I've used Mobil 1 on just about every car I've owned. But along the lines of "don't fix what isn't broken" also goes along with "well we've always done it that way" doesn't always mean something better isn't out there.
Hence my search. I used to use Fram and some of the other filters out there until I got the information to make a good choice in filters. Seeing what goes into them is something fram wouldn't want you to know.
Anyhow thanks for the bump.
I was thinking about switching to AMSOIL. So I signed up for thier membership $10.00 for 6 months. They said they would send me a package in the mail and I got a few broshures. If I find a website in the package I will post it up. Not sure if it will be independant or AMSOIL testing
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^^ Cool. Right now something is better than nothing.
I'm really surprised there hasn't been any tests on oils like I would think someone would do on air filters and oil filters. It only makes sense that there would be one out there. But I suppose if there was than they would probably pay that person to never show that to the public....seeing as they could sway the ppl and what oil brand would actually start getting a lot more money because there product was great. Or it would cause the other companies to up their product quality.
I'm really surprised there hasn't been any tests on oils like I would think someone would do on air filters and oil filters. It only makes sense that there would be one out there. But I suppose if there was than they would probably pay that person to never show that to the public....seeing as they could sway the ppl and what oil brand would actually start getting a lot more money because there product was great. Or it would cause the other companies to up their product quality.
In the August 05 issue of Super Street there is an article called Lube UP about motor oils, its very interesting. I am not sure if they archive there articles but you should be able to find it. It has insight from Mark McFann the marketing director from Royal Purple, and some coments from Mark Ferner who is the head of research and development for Quaker State who by the way is making race oil now. Check it out.
Originally Posted by Jo & Joey
But I suppose if there was than they would probably pay that person to never show that to the public....seeing as they could sway the ppl and what oil brand would actually start getting a lot more money because there product was great. Or it would cause the other companies to up their product quality.
My take is that any synthetic oil from reputable manufacturers should be good enough for street driven vehicles with short servicing intervals. Use Mobil, Castrol, Agip, Shell etc and you should be safe. You might not gain a whole lot of power but you probably won't be doing your engine any harm as well. Personally, I prefer esters-based oils like Redline, Motul, HKS etc because I'm able to use the lowest viscosity possible without sacrificing high-temp protection and shear stability.
I've seen and read that airfilter test before, That's the artice that K&N didn't
want you to see. Because of that article, I no longer use K&N filters on
any of my vehicles anymore.
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want you to see. Because of that article, I no longer use K&N filters on
any of my vehicles anymore.
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Originally Posted by LordEvoIX
You guessed it
My take is that any synthetic oil from reputable manufacturers should be good enough for street driven vehicles with short servicing intervals. Use Mobil, Castrol, Agip, Shell etc and you should be safe. You might not gain a whole lot of power but you probably won't be doing your engine any harm as well.
Personally, I prefer esters-based oils like Redline, Motul, HKS etc because I'm able to use the lowest viscosity possible without sacrificing high-temp protection and shear stability.
My take is that any synthetic oil from reputable manufacturers should be good enough for street driven vehicles with short servicing intervals. Use Mobil, Castrol, Agip, Shell etc and you should be safe. You might not gain a whole lot of power but you probably won't be doing your engine any harm as well. Personally, I prefer esters-based oils like Redline, Motul, HKS etc because I'm able to use the lowest viscosity possible without sacrificing high-temp protection and shear stability.








