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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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Yes probably handles larger injectors better then most other tuning products. As long as you are on the stock turbo though I would definitely stick with the stock injectors and just install a pump.
Without a doubt.....I dont plan on upgrading the injectors untill I upgrade the turbo. Even then its gonna be a WR or the 20g. Personally I am leaning to the WR. I dont like the idea of surge with the 20g....its my daily driver and besides my HP goals are only around 350-370whp I want a turbo that performs like stock but can handle the cams up high at 22psi.

I'm doing the usual route though...just setting up the base right now...exhaust, better BOV, intake, next is the cams or the tune. Undecided.

Ecutek is what I want. I like the idea of being OBDII compliant. After owning other cars I modded that werent street legal and then having to get emissions is such a hassle, I dont want to do that anymore.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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I am not a fan of these modded stock turbos, they should be able to flow more up top but the stock exhaust housing just cokes it, 10.5 or not, it also aids in detonation. A WR and a 3071 is oddly enough that same price (or close to it) go for that turbo and you KILL a white rabbit, make it look silly, have WAY lower knock, and be able to flow cool efficient boost where as a WR is just a stratch.




Also how much more control does a AEM EMS have over a ECUTEC? Benfits of the stand alone Vs. the ECUTEK?
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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WR = 1500

3071= 2800

AEM EMS = 1600

Ecutek = 650


See where I am going, besides that, did you read my HP goals and reasons for what I want? Stock spool up. I dont want a garrett turbo.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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I will say that the EcuTek has quite a bit of features and there are more to come but the true power of the AEM cannot be matched. For one thing the AEM allows you to watch what is going on so you always know what load cell you are in. That feature alone, if it were added to the Ecutek, would make the Ecutek one hell of a tool. I know it's really not possible though. It really is a shame the Mitsu ECU has such a slow communcation protocol.
If you want to truly see what the AEM can do, download the software and look through the menus. That alone would give you a good idea of it's capability.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by althemean
WR = 1500

3071= 2800

AEM EMS = 1600

Ecutek = 650


See where I am going, besides that, did you read my HP goals and reasons for what I want? Stock spool up. I dont want a garrett turbo.
350-370 on what dyno?
If it's dynojet, you don't even need a turbo.
To be honest, I have 272 cams and really want to change them out for something like a Tomei with higher lift and less duration. I have a built bottom end though with an over spec machined cylinder head so I would have to check clearance with the higher lift cam.
Don't believe all the poor running AEM cars is the way things are. I have driven Nick's car and it is as good as a stock car if not better. Well it is obviously better when you put your foot in it.
There are a lot of people who buy it and don't have a good tuner lined up and try to do it themselves.
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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by althemean
Without a doubt.....I dont plan on upgrading the injectors untill I upgrade the turbo. Even then its gonna be a WR or the 20g. Personally I am leaning to the WR. I dont like the idea of surge with the 20g....its my daily driver and besides my HP goals are only around 350-370whp I want a turbo that performs like stock but can handle the cams up high at 22psi.

I'm doing the usual route though...just setting up the base right now...exhaust, better BOV, intake, next is the cams or the tune. Undecided.

Ecutek is what I want. I like the idea of being OBDII compliant. After owning other cars I modded that werent street legal and then having to get emissions is such a hassle, I dont want to do that anymore.
People have noticed for a few years now that the garret GT series for the 2.0l engine has spooled around 4000 rpm. I can agree that you may want stock like spool and these turbos will not provide that. Just keep in mind that the gearing in this car is setup to keep you in the higher rpms when in performance mode. That gearing advantage alone makes a 3071 a great choice. If you haven't ever driven in a car with this turbo, you may want to investigate it further. Boost comes in at 3400 rpm and FULL boost by 4000. Its about 800 rpm slower than stock when initially hitting boost in FIRST GEAR. From there it is instant.
my 2 cents.
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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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People have noticed for a few years now that the garret GT series for the 2.0l engine has spooled around 4000 rpm. I can agree that you may want stock like spool and these turbos will not provide that. Just keep in mind that the gearing in this car is setup to keep you in the higher rpms when in performance mode. That gearing advantage alone makes a 3071 a great choice. If you haven't ever driven in a car with this turbo, you may want to investigate it further. Boost comes in at 3400 rpm and FULL boost by 4000. Its about 800 rpm slower than stock when initially hitting boost in FIRST GEAR. From there it is instant.
my 2 cents.
Its a good point. I know right now I havent even begun to start maxing out the stock turbo....which is my first goal. But I definately dont want a stand-alone simply for emissions reasons. I've had other cars that were so heavily modded that to pass emissions was a nightmare and involved lots of de-tuning, and when it was all said and done, more tuning to bring it back to where it was.

The garret 3071 is only slower by about 800 rpm huh....I guess thats not bad when you couple a set of cams designed to run in higher rpms anywas. But this is where I run into the ECU prob. Will Ecutek be able to handle that turbo for me to justify spending money on it without switching to a stand-alone?
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Old Oct 1, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by althemean
Its a good point. I know right now I havent even begun to start maxing out the stock turbo....which is my first goal. But I definately dont want a stand-alone simply for emissions reasons. I've had other cars that were so heavily modded that to pass emissions was a nightmare and involved lots of de-tuning, and when it was all said and done, more tuning to bring it back to where it was.

The garret 3071 is only slower by about 800 rpm huh....I guess thats not bad when you couple a set of cams designed to run in higher rpms anywas. But this is where I run into the ECU prob. Will Ecutek be able to handle that turbo for me to justify spending money on it without switching to a stand-alone?
Yes it will.
We will be running a GT35 on the EcuTek in the comming weeks.
I have already run the the system on the 3071 with great results. The stock MAF can take alot of power with out running out of resolution.
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