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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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Greddy a Player a Factor

I was just wondering what you all thought about Greddy products. I personally have none of their products on my car. But they make about all the same products as everyone else......turbos, intercooler, engine management, intake, accessories, etc.......but i never read discussion on there parts, or them being a player out there in the EVO community.

I was wondering why??? Is their quality substandard, are they just not tried and proven, why do many other cars use greddy parts, but EVOS just don't for some reason.

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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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i love greddy electronics! i have the fatt timer and the profec bII boost controller.they are alittle hard to get use to tuning wise (if adjustable)but work very well.as for hardware ie turbos and bov etc. they are well made ive seen one turbo fail but it was due to the kid running the boost way too high for that turbo 32psi on what was to be a 20 psi max turbo.it was surging so bad it blew apart.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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Why do i not see any greddy all out evos, like the other companies have???? is what im getting at...an all out greddy car....what the evo is not good enough to turn into a track hound for them??? i just think a huge jdm company with $$$ is not making waves. Unless someone has a link they could show me that would be great.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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their just not as rich as HK$.
they have a different approach.

I know that their T67/20g kit would be awesome if their manifolds didn't crack. I like their gauges....Signal Auto uses greddy stuff. Drifter X's 240sx also has alot of greddy stuff. Their usa branch concentrates on carb legal parts. Carb legal turbo kits for hondas and such. damn CALI!
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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ok..but TRUST is the parent company in japan..and i canot find any info there as well, mainly because i dont read japanese.........so maybe greddy is not all evo..but how about trust japan??? any former japanese here, any recall of a trust evo?
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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roadraceengineering has a lotta greddy on their blue car (rob tallini's) acutally i don't know if the greddy stuff is still on there but the greddy ti might still be.

bottom line is this. greddy makes some of the best hard parts for a very specific market. perhaps due to the influences from rre or just from smart peopel working there they make AFFORDABLE, REASONALY PRICED high grade parts that arne't SO "well built" that they cost a billion dollars. they mass produce everything.

example... the greddy ti is not only the best ti exhuast it's also the cheapest. it's not PERFECTLY made, as in it's not ONE piece, several long pieces welded together, but that's totally acceptable agreed? and they obviously pass that savings on to you.

example 2 their intercooler the vspec sucks ***, but their rspec intercooler is the lightest intercooler on the market with the best louvred fin design, the fins are immaculate and dense offering the best margin for cooling in this type of design. it's not overengineered because it's not heavy so it doesn't cool the BEST but it's the lightest per affective cooling. yes it's lighter than the arc, and yes the arc will do better but this is where greddy shines AGAIN, it's cheaper.

i wouldn't buy greddy boost controllers, because altho they rectified problems with the old boost solenoids... they still had problems before. they make good gauges, cheap functional standlone units.

their catchcan which i don't own is also one of the few on teh market that comes with a mounting solution.

i wouldn't buy their intercooler pipes, i wouldn't buy a lotta other things from them... but for a few things... they're spectacular, which is generally the case for any company.

now that i've said that i think ti's a point of contention that a lot of jdm companies face.

it has to be understood that most of the jdm companies don't make ALL OUT race parts like we're looking for in america. there is ALWAYS a compromise in jdsm products and that's where greddy shines again, they keep the compromises removable and to a minimum.

case in point, jdm exhausts, dowpipes are never fully 3" they sacrafice this maximum diameter for fitment and clearance, for the fact that the stock o2 housing is difficult to improve on etc etc. catbacks always come resonated or tapered. only the small shops over there make hardcore stuff and they make them in such small quantities that it becomes hugely expensive. and even the small companies make a lot of compromised parts: mines exhaust looks like works exhaust which is hugely bendy with a fat muffler on the end, the mines dp altho 3" won't clear anything similar to ams. i guess what i'm saying is we don't have to go far for compromised parts, for perfection we already have our american companies pushing out perfectly functional products.

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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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thanks trinydex my socal brother!!
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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HKS>Greddy/TRUST
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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hks really devoted alot of attention to the US evo owners... i had Greddy Guages, e-01, and emanage on my evo... the emanage was garbage, but the other stuff was the best you could buy at the time...
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 11:17 PM
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alot of my parts are greddy,i am so happy with my bov cat-back shift knob and boost controler! greddy is been good to me.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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well IMO Greddy is about a balance of power/reliability......meaning they tend not to go all out but stay just above the minimum.
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by AWDrift07
HKS>Greddy/TRUST
jdm delusion

Originally Posted by Jadiem
hks really devoted alot of attention to the US evo owners... i had Greddy Guages, e-01, and emanage on my evo... the emanage was garbage, but the other stuff was the best you could buy at the time...
i vehemently agree the emagnage is out dated tech, the only good option for evos is the safc short of aem. of course the jdm stand alones are good... but support is of utmost importance in these fields and nothing rivals both the safc and aem. if you insist on jdm ecu side with apexi because it's best, but lacks knock control... use stfu tuning as a tuner, he's awesome. gems ecu used in hks stand alone is the same as aem, just requires an encyclopedia of translations from aem talk.

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well IMO Greddy is about a balance of power/reliability......meaning they tend not to go all out but stay just above the minimum.
this is a fair statement but i'd say they're more a balance of ultimate and price. where hks is more of a balance of seemlessness and quality. you see it works out for hks because they can sell more by making everything seemelss and high quality. seemless means they can sell many 2.75" dps... and peopel will love them... they'll sell plenty of tapered catbacks... and people will love them. not the same for greddy... even if greddy rivaled hks in quality the compromise would kill their market. so they don't compromise.

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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by trinydex
jdm delusion
JDM has nothing to do with it. I could care less where a piece is made, as long as it performs and is going to last. HKS makes a better product, hands down. HKS knows turbos and has had a long history of motorsport success.
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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I'd say the US aftermarket companies are ahead of the JDM companies in the Evo8 community in large part due to this board.

I don't understand why the JDM compines barely ever respond directly to the EvoM community--Its not a language barrier issue, I lived in Japan for 6 months and spoke English almost the entire time.

I'd love to see the HKS folks address the SSQV problems on the Evo. That would clean up their their image a bit. Every Mitsu I've had before the Evo was HKS'd out and I loved their products.

I will say this is the first car that I did 99% of the mods on, again, largely due to this community. I was also sick of paying out the a$$ on installs

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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AWDrift07
JDM has nothing to do with it. I could care less where a piece is made, as long as it performs and is going to last. HKS makes a better product, hands down. HKS knows turbos and has had a long history of motorsport success.
is that why they make a nice tapered catback exhaust? is that why they make a 2.75" dp? they're not making all out raceparts for your car, you're not gonna win any races running ONLY hks stuff.

it's like mercedes... in fact i just watched a mercedes commercial saying when you're going this and this speed... racing heritage matters. and sure... mercedes DOES have racing heritage... still does... their engines still compete, but does what they sell you have ANYTHING to do with that? none... their slr their supercar... is automatic transmission... no f1 paddles... no smg... and this is a very expensive car... it even claims to be a sports car...

same for hks... they make you something real clean, real expensive... so why again? the turbos they sell you are not on their trb evo... NOB's red hks evo runs not only custom endless brakes that you can't get but probably other items that are for racing only but not quite available to you as an end user as a bolt on kit...

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