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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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my cams say I hate blow off valves!

Atleast this is what I think it's saying, If people have been following my problems with my 272's for weeks now I'm going to Pruven tommorrow to see what they can do....

Before that I'm trying something I never did before which I should've in the first place, after doing some research on the forum... I found very little information about this... Infact I found one thread with one post on this problem and noone really replied back.


I had HKS SSQ vented before my 272 cams... loud as ****, no problems or very little "unnoticeable" problems on my car..

Added cams... Hi check engine light, Bye driving my car

Worst of all... constant stalling, idle dipping low from time to time.. infact I really care less of my idle... JUST the stalling.

I used to like loud BOV's,.. but now I don't care.. BOV's are waste of money and time to deal with.... I already went through 2.. not bout to make another mistake.

I NEED A BOV THAT PEOPLE HAVE TRIED WITH 272 CAMS.. I want absolutely no problems with that..

I noticed that one posts I read.... someone stating... Wether it's.. Vented, Recirculated, Adjusted the screw in or out, Single spring or Dual spring.. I stall all the time with my 272 cams.

<--- same thing here.

I don't want to keep my stock plastic diverter valve and I'm not interested in the JDM MR.. need something that holds more than 23 psi please

The reason I got another recirculating BOV is because I refused to go back to my stock BOV.. i just dont like it but if it brings back my drivability I'll take it temporarily...

Now to end my BOV dilema... I'm looking at APS but I don't know if it can work with 272 CAMS

Someone show me the way.........
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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Get a MR dv like half this forum has and you won't have any problems. APS works just as well but costs almost twice as much.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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Why do you not like the JDM MR DV? It holds up to 25psi without leaking, works perfectly, idles perfectly, shifts perfectly, purges perfectly...and costs half as much as any other BOV.

You could go with the Forge DV, too, which is fully-recirculating and probably a little stronger than the JDM MR DV, but I don't know first-hand. Do you really plan on running more than 25psi daily?
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Some people have had problems with the jdm mr valve, me being one of them. I dont have cams, but from what Ive read in the past year, and my own expierence, you cant go wrong with the aps 50/50.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bigjhoney
Some people have had problems with the jdm mr valve, me being one of them. I dont have cams, but from what Ive read in the past year, and my own expierence, you cant go wrong with the aps 50/50.
Any problems with the JDM MR DV can be attirbuted to installation or a bad valve. There is no way a 50/50 valve can work BETTER than the fully-recirculating JDM MR DV.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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Im just curious where your getting this notion that you need to upgrade your bov? The stock seems to work fine on kent jordans stroked, viper killing evo yet it isnt sufficient for your car? If you want good drivability.. the stocker is the only way to go.. MR is better, but worse drivability... everything is gonna give you bad drivability in comparison.

There is alos the tomei bov.. which is a reworked MR valve. VTA is worthless.. unless you have a setup to do so.. I used a fully adjutable valve before and it did nothing but ruin drivability and hurt performance.. you having so much problem wiht tapering maybe because of your hallman MBC.. I was having this problem before, after switching to the Apexi AVC-R and having it properly dialed in there was no taper issue.. all my taper is programmed in electronically.. this is because the ebc gives you superior control over the wastegate by allowing to adjust gains after different rpm levels. I spike to 23 psi, fall to 21 and taper to 20psi at redline with the stock valve so i dont see where the problem for you is..

Do you by chance have your MBC T into the DV line? I had it like this and it was much better after switching it to the turbine outlet.. although you get more spiking.. with the avcr though its perfect.


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Atleast this is what I think it's saying, If people have been following my problems with my 272's for weeks now I'm going to Pruven tommorrow to see what they can do....

Before that I'm trying something I never did before which I should've in the first place, after doing some research on the forum... I found very little information about this... Infact I found one thread with one post on this problem and noone really replied back.


I had HKS SSQ vented before my 272 cams... loud as ****, no problems or very little "unnoticeable" problems on my car..

Added cams... Hi check engine light, Bye driving my car

Worst of all... constant stalling, idle dipping low from time to time.. infact I really care less of my idle... JUST the stalling.

I used to like loud BOV's,.. but now I don't care.. BOV's are waste of money and time to deal with.... I already went through 2.. not bout to make another mistake.

I NEED A BOV THAT PEOPLE HAVE TRIED WITH 272 CAMS.. I want absolutely no problems with that..

I noticed that one posts I read.... someone stating... Wether it's.. Vented, Recirculated, Adjusted the screw in or out, Single spring or Dual spring.. I stall all the time with my 272 cams.

<--- same thing here.

I don't want to keep my stock plastic diverter valve and I'm not interested in the JDM MR.. need something that holds more than 23 psi please

The reason I got another recirculating BOV is because I refused to go back to my stock BOV.. i just dont like it but if it brings back my drivability I'll take it temporarily...

Now to end my BOV dilema... I'm looking at APS but I don't know if it can work with 272 CAMS

Someone show me the way.........

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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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I'm trying to run alky on my car so I can boost 25+ boost (in the near future)... that's why I see the MR unsuitable... I mean I hear lots and lots of good things about it but I just need something that holds more.

Cams really changed everything, I felt as if I could any BOV i wanted.. when my car was close to stock..

After seeing how hard my 272 pulls, "sound" could never beat that.

You know what.. after all this hell I think I might just go with the MR bov.. I mean no complaints.. I'll just run under 25PSI and save money?

That's exactly what I'm thinking... how can 50/50 beat fully recirculated... especially if you have cams it makes it even harder to get a BOV that makes your car run well...


I'm a kid.. I just want to have fun, I like to win drags, I like to smoke mustangs, camaros, corvettes, and any v8
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bdking57
Im just curious where your getting this notion that you need to upgrade your bov? The stock seems to work fine on kent jordans stroked, viper killing evo yet it isnt sufficient for your car? If you want good drivability.. the stocker is the only way to go.. MR is better, but worse drivability... everything is gonna give you bad drivability in comparison.

There is alos the tomei bov.. which is a reworked MR valve.
I've heard too many stories stocker leaking at 21psi and obviously not holding more than that
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bigjhoney
Some people have had problems with the jdm mr valve, me being one of them. I dont have cams, but from what Ive read in the past year, and my own expierence, you cant go wrong with the aps 50/50.
Are you running APS 50/50 with HKS 272 CAMS on stock ECU?
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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I have 272 cams and the APS BOV. Works great.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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You don't really want to run more than 25psi on a daily basis anyway. 24-25psi on alky is perfectly fine. The stock turbo is outside its efficiency range above 25psi, and trying to do more all the time will just lessen the life of your turbo. People have responded to this by saying, "Who cares if it goes bad, I'm upgrading my turbo anyway" or "so what, I can buy a used stock turbo for cheap and replace it easily." Well, that's not how I operate, so I try to keep my turbo lasting a while. I figure you'd want to do the same. You won't be missing a thing while running 24-25psi with cams+alky on an MR DV...
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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ive got hks 272s and a 1g bov with an adapter

works flawless
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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i had same problem after my cam install. after weeks of frustration and adjusting my adjustable BOV, turns out it was way too tight, i loosen it ALOT. didn't have stalling probs before the cams with the same BOV tight or loose.
my cars idle dips a bit but have not stalled coming to stop ever since. so try the single spring mod(not sure if u did this already) i bet its the problem.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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so your saying you have heard complaints about the TOMEI MR valve? ( this is not the same thing as the standard MR valve) Link to these complaints? It is supposed to be a completely reworked and bench tested MR valve that will hold like a rock no problem..
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