Just a quick thought. Did you look to see that the techs removed the front spring spacers when the car was PDI'd?

There have been a few people taking ownership fo their Evo's only to notice that the spacers are still in place. Those spacers, if still in place, would certainly contribute to an understeer condition.

SC~

 

I'll take a look at lunch.. Thanks..


I am guessing it is just a spacer up at the top where the spring rests?


Thanks,
-Zach

 

There is a pic of the spacer in a thread by coolguy (when he spotted the blue Evo at Mitsu headquarters) in the general forum.

The spacer looks like a black cube of rubber, about 1.5 inches in height and 2 inches long, jammed between the spring coil, near where the shock shaft enters the shock body.

SC~

 

Well, i didn't see it.. Since you now have your evo, don't you notice turn-in under throttle is not the great? Like it pushes?

Maybe i am just jaded, cause i want it to handle closer to my old 3rd gen RX-7.


Thanks for the info though.

-Zach

 

You have to drive an AWD car differently than a RWD car. Slow down more on entry and get back on the gas sooner.

 

Yes, i know this.. I had a WRX before this.. but it obviously didn't handle the same.. ( it was pretty much stock suspension)


And i still think the evo could be setup better. But that is my opinion. I mean, mitsubishi is gonna make some compromises. And understeer is usually safer then oversteer.


-Zach

 

wel, I do have my car now....But I've only had it for 12 hours and 78 miles. I have not experienced the understeer you speak of. Though mag articles spoke of understeer in only the tightest of turns for the Evo.

The WRX is known to have terrible understeer in stock form. Was your suspension modded?

I really don't think you'll get your Evo to handle like a rwd car. The oversteer you felt with that was likely caused by rolling on the throttle, right?

I will likely be trail braking to get the car to rotate the way I'd like when I'm on the track.

SC~

 

Ive got 4 words of advice for those of you wanting less oversteer:
Limited slip front differential.

My 2 cents

 

Ok, now just got to go rob another bank


Thats for all the comments guys. Maybe i just need to get more use to it.. I have an race comming up soon. so that should help.


I think this has been beaten to death,


-Zach

 

I actually have been getting a lot of understeer in sharp turns as well since I've broken in the car. To me it's not bad since the car corrects itself perfectly everytime. I'm used to RWD so it's a different feeling for me. But I'm getting used to it and I like the control of just letting off a bit on the throttle to straighten the tail and then hammering it to keep power up out the exit. The car seems to like it no matter how fast or sharp the turn. I also think the tires, although good aren't great. I don't recall having so much tire squeal in turns at similar speeds on S02's. I could be wrong I might be going much faster than I realize. I've never had the time to check the speedometer.

 

hey zyounker

i have seen a few EVO's go with a larger rear sway bar to combat the understeer. very similar to getting a larger one on the wrx.

"I really don't think you'll get your Evo to handle like a rwd car"

with enough modification, sure you can. but do you want to? very mild oversteer in tight turns is nice, but in larger sweepers the mild might turn wild, especially if you have to lift off the throttle for any reason.

the LSD is really the best solution, but as you said, isnt cost effective (unless your rich). i have riden in an EVO with a larger rear sway bar, and the handling was ver neutral.

josh

 

See i can afford a rear sway bar..


i will look for an adjustable one..


Thanks for the ideas. Now i get to try and find one that they are not marking up 300% since the car is new.

I think with some camber adjustments and a rear sway bar.. it will act much better. I would love a front LSD, but not today..


Thanks again,

-Zach

 

No car, not even the fantastic handling 3rd gen rx-7, will corner well if you are on the gas at turn-in, you are just unweighting the front tires and will cause understeer. In a high HP RWD you can bust the rear tires loose to make it turn at entry but this is slow! (but it sure looks cool ). The only time you should be on the gas at turn-in is in high speed corners (4th, 5th gear maybe top of 3rd).

Try a little "trail braking" . Hard brake in a straight line with a SLOW release of the brake as you turn in, experiment with the rate of release because it is the key to ending the understeer. Also adjust your line so you don't turn in as early and therefore you have a straighter shot out of the corner to accelerate and finally don't "mash" on the gas apply throttle progressively if you get understeer on exit you simply got on the gas too soon for the steering you were still asking from the car (adjust line again or get on the gas slower). Playing with these three factors will cure the understeer.

If you are SURE you are maximizing the above techiniques THEN you can start messing with the car (alignment, anti-roll bars etc.)

Judging from your quote the problem is 99% driver, no offence we can all be better drivers Have fun!

Does the EVO have more low-speed understeer than your rx-7? YES Can you adjust your technique to cure it? YES

 

Yeah, i know it is part me.. That is why i said hopefully i will get more use to it during the race..


It will just take some time to get use to. but it does seem a little excesive.. And wasn't just mashing the gas the whole time but yeah.. i will play with it some more.

 

my opinion on this matter would be.

Coilovers some camber in the front and tower bars front and rear

however this seems to be individual since noone sems to drive the same, but with my current setup i didnt feel to much understeer rather to little.

anyway i have added a few other mods since i tried last so this will probobly change alot and need adjustment again