Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

Might be stepping up in cams...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 16, 2005, 12:32 PM
  #1  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (10)
 
Corey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Jeffersonville, IN / Louisville KY
Posts: 2,757
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Might be stepping up in cams...

My buddy decided to get rid of his 272's and asked me if I wanted them. I've been thinking of getting these for a while. Only thing is, I have my car flashed for my 264's and I'm not sure when I'll be able to get my car retuned. I don't really want a base mail in flash. I guess I could get a mail in flash for a band aid til I can get a custom tune.

Do you guys think it would be okay to drive for a while with my car tuned for 264's?
Old Nov 16, 2005, 12:37 PM
  #2  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Rez90's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Flemington, NJ
Posts: 2,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
probably not a good idea to put the cams in without a tune......
Old Nov 16, 2005, 12:40 PM
  #3  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (51)
 
Silver05Bullet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Jerzey
Posts: 763
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Its goign to run it just wont run all that good with the tune for 264's, and if you getting a retune soon after then i woudnt even worry about getting a mail i flah
Old Nov 16, 2005, 12:52 PM
  #4  
Evolving Member
 
Agent-Smith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 383
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Shiv has a basemap for the xede for cams, he says we can run that for any combo of hks cams. 264/272/280 - the differences are apparently very small in the overall tune.
Old Nov 16, 2005, 01:36 PM
  #5  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (40)
 
Blue Evo 8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: New York City
Posts: 5,354
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I was thiking of 272's as well earlier, but I fugured what the heck and got 280's instead
Old Nov 16, 2005, 01:47 PM
  #6  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (10)
 
Corey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Jeffersonville, IN / Louisville KY
Posts: 2,757
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Blue Evo 8
I was thiking of 272's as well earlier, but I fugured what the heck and got 280's instead
I don't think I'll ever use 280's to thier full capacity. I think 272's are big enough for a stock turbo car revving to 7200-7500.
Old Nov 16, 2005, 02:09 PM
  #7  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
sleet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Ft. Lauderdale
Posts: 6,197
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm going with 280s, soon hopefully.
Old Nov 16, 2005, 02:31 PM
  #8  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (40)
 
Blue Evo 8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: New York City
Posts: 5,354
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by sleet
I'm going with 280s, soon hopefully.


I have an appointment to have the 280's, SMC alky kit, walboro FP, and ARP headstuds installed and tuned on an AEM EMS with MAF delete in a few weeks, hopefully the car will come alive after all is installed and tuned
Old Nov 17, 2005, 07:12 PM
  #9  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (10)
 
Corey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Jeffersonville, IN / Louisville KY
Posts: 2,757
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm startign to think how I love the low end torque I have on my car with the 264's. I'm thinking maybe just doing the 272/264 combo, but I don't actually know which one is 272 and which one is 264.

You guys with 272's, do you have as much low end as you did with the stock cams?
Old Nov 17, 2005, 07:40 PM
  #10  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
sleet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Ft. Lauderdale
Posts: 6,197
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
^ I don't know why people still think you lose low end power with cams, you don't.
Old Nov 17, 2005, 07:52 PM
  #11  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Deepseadiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: GUAM, USA
Posts: 1,102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think the decision on what camshafts to get was one of the hardest decisions I had to make. I went with the HKS 272's. Just keep reading the posts and do research.

As far a upgrading to 272's do the band aid thing and get a mail in flash for the piece of mind.
Old Nov 17, 2005, 08:12 PM
  #12  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
SterlingEvo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: StVa
Posts: 3,487
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by sleet
^ I don't know why people still think you lose low end power with cams, you don't.
exactly... At our last local dyno day my tq and h power came as early and higher than other cars, and I remained 10-20 above until 6K when I pulled timing. It's totally usable power! I have 272s with gears set at 0,0 (Don't need gears, but I got them cheap...)

Here's the chart (the #s look low, but keep in mind the red line car that peaks at "302" trapped 113.9 on pump gas...)

Blue line (272s 0,0 pulling timing after 6K )
Red line (272s -4,-1 - powerband's shifted right)
Green line (stock cams)

The point of the chart is not the numbers, but to demonstrate that my low end torque is not suffering at all from the cams. In fact it kicks ***...

Old Nov 17, 2005, 09:34 PM
  #13  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (10)
 
Corey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Jeffersonville, IN / Louisville KY
Posts: 2,757
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks for the dyno sheet. That gives me a better idea of the gains over stock cams. I'm just curious of how much of a actual difference there is between 264's and 272's.

I'm goona try to search about some stuff on them.
Old Mar 1, 2019, 10:27 AM
  #14  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (5)
 
SoSoEVO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: CA
Posts: 390
Received 160 Likes on 117 Posts
Opps wrong thread...free bump :P
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JSYEVO
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
42
Oct 22, 2005 01:45 PM
fuzzychi
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
6
Jul 9, 2005 01:21 AM
j8
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
15
Apr 2, 2005 01:41 PM



Quick Reply: Might be stepping up in cams...



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:31 AM.