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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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How much hp can the 6.5 tme hold?

I was wondering who also has this turbo. I want to know what is the max horsepower this turbo could put out? I ran a 12.8 @ 109 up here in new mexico the altitude is really high. I have a hks hi powered exaust, 3 inch downpipe, injen intake with uip, mr header, mr o2 housing, exedy stage 1 clutch, mbc set at 22 psi, and a safc, and a really good tune. What else could i do to to really increase my horsepower?
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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I think the HP max is 410ish? Dynojet? I love the turbo personally.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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You really have alot of mods wich was your biggest gain besides the turbo? What is your whp? I think they told me i was like at 345 to the wheels.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cutieone
I was wondering who also has this turbo. I want to know what is the max horsepower this turbo could put out? I ran a 12.8 @ 109 up here in new mexico the altitude is really high. I have a hks hi powered exaust, 3 inch downpipe, injen intake with uip, mr header, mr o2 housing, exedy stage 1 clutch, mbc set at 22 psi, and a safc, and a really good tune. What else could i do to to really increase my horsepower?
the turbo is the same size as a stocker. It should put out the same hp as a stocker with a 10.5 hotside. Even with lighter internals for the turbo, once they reach speed, the parasitic power loss of the turbo should be the same as a stocker.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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You really have alot of mods wich was your biggest gain besides the turbo? What is your whp? I think they told me i was like at 345 to the wheels.
My biggest gain besides the turbo is the Xede/Xede flash, the 280 cams, and the Vishnu Tune. Good luck.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dubbleugly01
the turbo is the same size as a stocker. It should put out the same hp as a stocker with a 10.5 hotside. Even with lighter internals for the turbo, once they reach speed, the parasitic power loss of the turbo should be the same as a stocker.
I just keep staring at this statement dubble, and I guess that is right, the internals make it just spool up quicker. It just looks funny the way it is written, or maybe I just didn't look at it that way! There is LESS parasitic loss from something which is Lighter in weight, and a lighter spinning mass no? That is so miniscule, that it couldn't be measured though.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Where in new mexico?

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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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The same exact as the 2005 turbos.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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I just keep staring at this statement dubble, and I guess that is right, the internals make it just spool up quicker. It just looks funny the way it is written, or maybe I just didn't look at it that way! There is LESS parasitic loss from something which is Lighter in weight, and a lighter spinning mass no? That is so miniscule, that it couldn't be measured though.
Parasitic losses will only increase if you are losing energy through the bearings and oil film on rotating parts. Sure enough, heavier parts will result in increased bearing loads IF they aren't balanced properly. With a turbo spinning in excess of 85,000 rpms, they better be balanced to the nth degree! Remember, force is equal to mass x acceleration. But since the turbo speed isn't accelerating at peak power, the only loss in power comes for the bearings and oil. I'm sure some physics major will come on here and tell me where I'm wrong, which I probably am, but maybe I'm wrong by about .5 - 1 hp max.
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dubbleugly01
Parasitic losses will only increase if you are losing energy through the bearings and oil film on rotating parts. Sure enough, heavier parts will result in increased bearing loads IF they aren't balanced properly. With a turbo spinning in excess of 85,000 rpms, they better be balanced to the nth degree! Remember, force is equal to mass x acceleration. But since the turbo speed isn't accelerating at peak power, the only loss in power comes for the bearings and oil. I'm sure some physics major will come on here and tell me where I'm wrong, which I probably am, but maybe I'm wrong by about .5 - 1 hp max.
No one is going to come on here and refute you! . You explained it very well.good job! . I just thought you could "squeeze" more HP out of the TME, over a stock turbo with 10.5. but they appear the same thing, only one will spool slightly quicker.

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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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The same exact as the 2005 turbos.
Nope. The Evo 6.5 RS TME turbo is close, but not the same as a 2005 MR turbo. The 6.5 has a titanium tubine wheel which allows it to spool faster than the 05 MR turbo.
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilBlueEvo8
Nope. The Evo 6.5 RS TME turbo is close, but not the same as a 2005 MR turbo. The 6.5 has a titanium tubine wheel which allows it to spool faster than the 05 MR turbo.
Umm maybe you should try reading the first post. He was talking max HP the TME can produce.. Im well aware the TME has a titanium-aluminide wheel in it allowing it to spool faster, however the max output is what I was referring to, thanks though.

Oh and you dont have to refer to it as the "MR turbo" since all 2005s are equipped with the larger turbine housing
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
Umm maybe you should try reading the first post. He was talking max HP the TME can produce.. Im well aware the TME has a titanium-aluminide wheel in it allowing it to spool faster, however the max output is what I was referring to, thanks though.

Oh and you dont have to refer to it as the "MR turbo" since all 2005s are equipped with the larger turbine housing
wow what's your problem. first off i had read the first post. second off your first statement wasn't very descriptive. i was taking your post as there is no difference at all between the two turbos and was merely stating the difference. it wasn't clear what you were talking about. oh and not all 05 turbos are the same. yes they all have a 10.5 hotside, but the mr turbo has a single flapper wastegate while the others have a dual flapper wastegate.
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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there is no clear or absolute answer to this question
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilBlueEvo8
wow what's your problem. first off i had read the first post. second off your first statement wasn't very descriptive. i was taking your post as there is no difference at all between the two turbos and was merely stating the difference. it wasn't clear what you were talking about. oh and not all 05 turbos are the same. yes they all have a 10.5 hotside, but the mr turbo has a single flapper wastegate while the others have a dual flapper wastegate.
Typically, when one responds to a thread with a statement, its referring to the original post, and question.... which is what I did.

Oh and youre wrong again about the MR/05 Turbos. All 2005 turbos have the single flapper. I would know, I just took my turbine housing off and its single, Im actually selling it this week too. People commonly refer to the 2005 turbo as the "MR turbo" because the MR was introduced in 2005. The dual flappers are pre 2005.
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