Methanol Injection on EVO 8 Stock Turbocharger
Feb 3, 2006, 08:57 PM
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Methanol Injection on EVO 8 Stock Turbocharger
Hey guys,
We just finished tuning out a Methanol injection car on the stock turbocharger. We are quite pleased with the results, not as a big top end power car, but as a torque monster than has an insane midrange power band. Since this car is 100% street car running 100% on 91 octane pump gas (and methanol) 320whp and 298.5 ft/lbs of torque definitely makes this car a formidable street car.
I have placed the dynograph against a GT3076R car running pure 91 octane. Comparing the graphs you will notice the area under the curve is almost identical, with the stock turbo car putting down MORE torque than the GT3076. Keep in mind that a GT3076 on methonal only makes about 380whp on our dyno.
This tune is only safely possible with an Ecutek type setup. The last reflash system we had that most other dealers are using (Techtom) simply cannot provide the safety and reliability that the Ecutek system can (and that's why we scrapped it).
As a shameless plug, we are offering the Methanol injection system with build in failsafe at $499 Shipped.
Cheers,
Gary
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gary@gruppe-s.com
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We just finished tuning out a Methanol injection car on the stock turbocharger. We are quite pleased with the results, not as a big top end power car, but as a torque monster than has an insane midrange power band. Since this car is 100% street car running 100% on 91 octane pump gas (and methanol) 320whp and 298.5 ft/lbs of torque definitely makes this car a formidable street car.
I have placed the dynograph against a GT3076R car running pure 91 octane. Comparing the graphs you will notice the area under the curve is almost identical, with the stock turbo car putting down MORE torque than the GT3076. Keep in mind that a GT3076 on methonal only makes about 380whp on our dyno.
This tune is only safely possible with an Ecutek type setup. The last reflash system we had that most other dealers are using (Techtom) simply cannot provide the safety and reliability that the Ecutek system can (and that's why we scrapped it).
As a shameless plug, we are offering the Methanol injection system with build in failsafe at $499 Shipped.
Cheers,
Gary
www.gruppe-s.com
gary@gruppe-s.com
510-783-5300
510-783-4300 fax
Last edited by Gruppe-S; Feb 3, 2006 at 08:59 PM.
Feb 3, 2006, 09:34 PM
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Not to impress anyone here but read my signature, 364tq on a Mustang Dyno using alcohol and small nozzle, it is amazing what this kits can enhance on your engine torque.. I was expecting around 330tq to be honest, 364 tq was way more than what I expected on stock turbo..
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Feb 3, 2006, 09:52 PM
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lol... that stock turbo is my car ..... i cant thank mike enough for how great my experience was with gruppe-s yesterday. I still have a big grin on my face.
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Feb 3, 2006, 11:13 PM
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Not to impress anyone here but read my signature, 364tq on a Mustang Dyno using alcohol and small nozzle, it is amazing what this kits can enhance on your engine torque.. I was expecting around 330tq to be honest, 364 tq was way more than what I expected on stock turbo..
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I didnt expect to get the tq numbers I got either.... but hey Its all good.
Feb 3, 2006, 11:39 PM
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94AWDCoupe - The GT3076 is not so bad in the EVO due to the turbo's close proximity to the engine. You should try driving a 2.0 WRX with a GT3076. THAT is laggy! 
Blue EVO - What type of dyno is that? Even the GT3076 on C16 race gas will barely clear 400whp on our dyno!
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Blue EVO - What type of dyno is that? Even the GT3076 on C16 race gas will barely clear 400whp on our dyno!
Cheers,
Gary
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Feb 4, 2006, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Gruppe-S
94AWDCoupe - The GT3076 is not so bad in the EVO due to the turbo's close proximity to the engine. You should try driving a 2.0 WRX with a GT3076. THAT is laggy!
Blue EVO - What type of dyno is that? Even the GT3076 on C16 race gas will barely clear 400whp on our dyno!
Cheers,
Gary
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Blue EVO - What type of dyno is that? Even the GT3076 on C16 race gas will barely clear 400whp on our dyno!
Cheers,
Gary
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Feb 6, 2006, 12:28 PM
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Hi guys,
About 24-25psi is all that can be done with the stock turbo on methanol, as any more boost pressure will yield negative returns, due to the inefficiency of the compressor (ie hotter air, less air-mass).
Cheers,
Gary
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About 24-25psi is all that can be done with the stock turbo on methanol, as any more boost pressure will yield negative returns, due to the inefficiency of the compressor (ie hotter air, less air-mass).
Cheers,
Gary
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Feb 6, 2006, 03:32 PM
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Hi guys,
About 24-25psi is all that can be done with the stock turbo on methanol, as any more boost pressure will yield negative returns, due to the inefficiency of the compressor (ie hotter air, less air-mass).
Cheers,
Gary
Gruppe-S
About 24-25psi is all that can be done with the stock turbo on methanol, as any more boost pressure will yield negative returns, due to the inefficiency of the compressor (ie hotter air, less air-mass).
Cheers,
Gary
Gruppe-S