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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluetuscani04
accutally if since all u seem like draggers i think u guys bought the wrong car u should have saved 30grand and bought a civic hatch and turboed it im the circuit type no mods need juss suspension work i dont need 3 million horsepower to get my *** around the track sooo sorri i dont want some bull**** *** stage two ecu flash crap jesus u guys are ****ing DICKS soo **** you
Who said anything about drag racing, and since when does an intake and BOV help you get around the road course? I happily lap people on the road course using all of my 350whp and my perfectly stock suspension with a nice set of tires. I also drag race quite well and autocross very well. My extra power helps me in all racing venues. An HKS SSQV and Arc intake will only make your Evo worse than stock.
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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Dont pay attention to those guys. Some times it is impossible for them to realize that not everyone wants what they have for their cars. I personally like the APS BOV. It fits in the stock location, recirculates (so you wont have idle issues such as with the HKS unit) it does sound remarkably like the stock unit, but with an intake it will be very noticable. The intakes to stay away from are the ones with hard MAF pipes. Those cause lean spots and idle issues as well.
I relaced my BOV because I got flutter with the stock unit. The APS is also dual vent which means at low boost pressures in recirulates and at full boost it will partially VTA (vent to atmosphere)

I also used a k&n cone filter with just a MAF adaptor and never had one issue with it. I need to buy a new intake for my car since I just had my AEM EMS installed. If you are interested in my old intake setup (in good shape) PM me and let me know, I will cut you a deal.
I dont understand..... i have never heard of a bad intake because of a hard MAF pipe... i thought they were only bad when you get one with no tune??
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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I like to have a clean looking engine bay. I like the way the hks BOV w/pipe looks but I want something that performs excellent. Since you said the hks bov is a no no, What do you recommend that looks good and performs well???
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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Bluetuscani04 the HKS is a nice piece as is the ARC. If those are the parts you would like them buy them. HKS bov sounds awesome. You can also look into getting the HKS EIDS to smooth the signal from the MAS.

The Forge RS is also a great bov. It does recirc, but you can hear it very well with an aftermarket intake.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GgreyEVOIX
Wow!!!! I can't believe you posted this! So you want to spend $800 for 2 mods that will end up causing damage to your motor?
Where the hell do you come up with this information. An HKS bov and ARC intake will destroy your motor

Funny how I was running a Turbo XS RFL and "hard pipe" intake un-tuned and my motor is still kicking at 41k.

Everyone needs to hop of this guy and let him get whatever the hell he wants.

Can we please help this guy and answer his question and not flame him...
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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Yeah, don't mind what other people say on these forums. Do what you want to do.
Seems like 90 percent of the people here are just followers and worker ants.
I also think that the HKS SSBOV is the best sounding BOV and would love to have it, but VTA isn't very good for our cars. We need a recircing BOV and that takes away most of the cool psshh sound. lol.
Like althemean said, The Dual vent of the APS seems like a good choice, andwould probably sounds "cooler" then a full recirc.
Back to your main question, does the hks upper intercooler pipe work with the factory airbox? If it does, it should work with the ARC, since the ARC uses factory mounting, and
factory MAF pipe.

Originally Posted by Warrtalon
An HKS SSQV and Arc intake will only make your Evo worse than stock.
I agree with the first part, An HKS SSQV, while it does sound badass, will make your Evo worse then stock, but he's wrong about the ARC. Unless Wartalon has bought, and put on an ARC on his Evo, drove it around, and dyno'd it like I have, he has no idea about how the ARC will affect an Evo.

When I put on my ARC, I gained over 15whp, but the car ran a little leaner. So I recommend getting a tune, or atleast a Super AFC, if you plan on getting an intake such as the ARC. The stock BOV sounds much better with the ARC, and throttle response, and top end feel a lot better. (Confirmed by the dyno)

Wartalon's hero, Al, from dynoflash, also agrees that a intake helps make power.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=82047

Well sorry for the long thread, and hope you found something useful from it.
BTW I also went from a Tuscani to An Evo IX. Got to admit, they are worlds apart.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Tpayne84
I dont understand..... i have never heard of a bad intake because of a hard MAF pipe... i thought they were only bad when you get one with no tune??
I guess I should have been more clear on that. Sorry. Yes...hard MAF pipe with no tune will run bad, from what I hear.

From personal experience, a K&N cone filter with a MAF adaptor on my 05 did not cause any undesirable issues to me. It increased the sound of the turbo spool and the sound of the stock BOV/APS BOV. I managed a 13.49@101.6 with a 2.03 60' with that setup plus a JIC catback and nothing else. Dynoed on the same day before I went to the track on a dyno dynamics @ 248.9whp
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluetuscani04
i didnt ask that ****ing question u ******* i asked if the hks bov kit fits with the arc box and if not which on that sounds like it does learn how to read u dumb ****

wow cry me a river.......wait let me find my shovel, so i can help you dig. you want straight answers, dont b!tch.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BBYBruno
Bluetuscani04 the HKS is a nice piece as is the ARC. If those are the parts you would like them buy them. HKS bov sounds awesome. You can also look into getting the HKS EIDS to smooth the signal from the MAS.

The Forge RS is also a great bov. It does recirc, but you can hear it very well with an aftermarket intake.
now thank you a constructive answer i appericate that
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Bluetuscani04
Yeah, don't mind what other people say on these forums. Do what you want to do.
Seems like 90 percent of the people here are just followers and worker ants.
I also think that the HKS SSBOV is the best sounding BOV and would love to have it, but VTA isn't very good for our cars. We need a recircing BOV and that takes away most of the cool psshh sound. lol.
Like althemean said, The Dual vent of the APS seems like a good choice, andwould probably sounds "cooler" then a full recirc.
Back to your main question, does the hks upper intercooler pipe work with the factory airbox? If it does, it should work with the ARC, since the ARC uses factory mounting, and
factory MAF pipe.



I agree with the first part, An HKS SSQV, while it does sound badass, will make your Evo worse then stock, but he's wrong about the ARC. Unless Wartalon has bought, and put on an ARC on his Evo, drove it around, and dyno'd it like I have, he has no idea about how the ARC will affect an Evo.

When I put on my ARC, I gained over 15whp, but the car ran a little leaner. So I recommend getting a tune, or atleast a Super AFC, if you plan on getting an intake such as the ARC. The stock BOV sounds much better with the ARC, and throttle response, and top end feel a lot better. (Confirmed by the dyno)

Wartalon's hero, Al, from dynoflash, also agrees that a intake helps make power.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=82047

Well sorry for the long thread, and hope you found something useful from it.
BTW I also went from a Tuscani to An Evo IX. Got to admit, they are worlds apart.
as is every fourm its ok
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BBYBruno
Where the hell do you come up with this information. An HKS bov and ARC intake will destroy your motor

Funny how I was running a Turbo XS RFL and "hard pipe" intake un-tuned and my motor is still kicking at 41k.

Everyone needs to hop of this guy and let him get whatever the hell he wants.

Can we please help this guy and answer his question and not flame him...
To me it seems like this guy wants to toss in parts without tuning for it, and on top of that he really doesn't want performance parts....he just wants to make noise so your telling me that adding a vta bov, intake, and god knows whatever other parts are going in without a tune on a otherwise stock car will be safe??? I think not. I have seen first hand what stupid noise making mods do to a car. This thread was pointless....I did a simple search and came up will a million threads about vta bov's and intakes, if the thread starter did this he would have found out on his own that those mods are worthless and will cause negative affects. But you guys are telling him to do what he wants which in this case is wrong. To hell with it right? just go get the bov and whatever other ricer mod....
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GgreyEVOIX
just go get the bov and whatever other ricer mod....
An HKS bov that holds boost very well and also has a nice sound is ricer...I don't think so.
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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Why does everyone get so worked up about BOV anyways?? I still dont understand that.
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by althemean
Why does everyone get so worked up about BOV anyways?? I still dont understand that.
I think it has to do with the personalities of the Evo owners asking the question. "My car will sound haWt with a mad tyte BOV, y0!" I love my Evo and would never add a modification that would hamper performance, or add something that will need to be "worked around". So when everyone sees someone that doesn't have the same love/admiration for the car's performance they get offended.

I had a Blitz DD on my 240sx w/ SR20 and it was terrible. Unfortunately on the SR, when you add a FMIC you loose the stock recirc valve and you have to add a BOV. I switched to a HKS SQV (not SSQV) and it worked better but was a ***** to tune since partial throttle was not accepted well by the BOV.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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i... just... couldn't help but respond to the earlier flaming...

anyone who buys an evo and drag races it should be shot. so if you have a 1/4 time and mph posted in your sig, please do us all a favor and sell your evo. these cars were not born nor ever intended to run up and down a stupid 1/4 mile strip of pavement all day long. they were also never intended to run around an autocross curcuit, but we all can't go rally and autocross sure beats a 1/4 mile strip, doesn't it? let's stop the argument and realize the SSQV and other dual-stage BOV's are made for throttle on/off response and not for idling... because honesly, who cares about idle when you can lap tsukuba in under a minute?

autox/rally: driver skill > car ability
drag racing: car ability > what driver skill?
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