Check out my curve, should I switch to alky?
^ hes actually using one of those nitrous in a bag kits which are known for having messed up jet sizes. A 20 shot on their system is more like a 40 shot on a normal nitrous system.
Oh and about alchohol, you would prolly only improve torque where it peaks because of higher boost. I'd have a lot of trouble believing that you would make any worthwhile power uptop by switching to alky
Oh and about alchohol, you would prolly only improve torque where it peaks because of higher boost. I'd have a lot of trouble believing that you would make any worthwhile power uptop by switching to alky
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K, so it's looking like I would gain minimal hp, but definately gain more torque. I think I might just get the larger cams and gears, install the intercooler and run straight 104 to get my 400WHP...should be good enough for me until getting the TT 50 trim. Thanks for the help guys!
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Originally Posted by Boltz.
^ hes actually using one of those nitrous in a bag kits which are known for having messed up jet sizes. A 20 shot on their system is more like a 40 shot on a normal nitrous system.
Oh and about alchohol, you would prolly only improve torque where it peaks because of higher boost. I'd have a lot of trouble believing that you would make any worthwhile power uptop by switching to alky
Oh and about alchohol, you would prolly only improve torque where it peaks because of higher boost. I'd have a lot of trouble believing that you would make any worthwhile power uptop by switching to alky
what makes you think the power increase wasn't the nitrous going into the intake filter that is directly behind the intercooler?
that is a healthy chart though, extremely good for only 24psi spike. 28psi spike with alky should net you around 400-410whp. thats damn good.
-Jeff-
that is a healthy chart though, extremely good for only 24psi spike. 28psi spike with alky should net you around 400-410whp. thats damn good.
-Jeff-
Originally Posted by tke_413
The top chart is also with the N'tercooler spraying nitrous on the stock intercooler to assist with the cooling. My new race intercooler will hopefully by arriving withing the next couple days and I'll be putting the spraying on that as well. Against what a lot of people say, the intercooler actually does help...my chart went up 25WHP and 5WTQ when spraying. I have easy access to the 104 when I go to the track, but it's like $6-8/gallon.
Originally Posted by FahKen Evo!
I say he would pick up atleast 30WHP and 60FP's of torque.
Your first graph looks wierd - the HP and TQ did not cross at 5252 RPM. Second one looks good.
Your cams look to run out of steam after about 6600 RPM so I think 272 may help if you like to rev up there.
Yes the alky will help with TQ number a lot (I would guess at least 25 ft.lb over what you have now) if you let it spike a bit higher.
I also think that N'tercooler is a big waste. You can't control the amount being injested through the filter. It DOES happen whether you want to admit it or not.
Your cams look to run out of steam after about 6600 RPM so I think 272 may help if you like to rev up there.
Yes the alky will help with TQ number a lot (I would guess at least 25 ft.lb over what you have now) if you let it spike a bit higher.
I also think that N'tercooler is a big waste. You can't control the amount being injested through the filter. It DOES happen whether you want to admit it or not.
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Originally Posted by Creamo3
No way, not on the stock turbo. He is already reaching the limits at 25 psi and race gas. The only gains that he would probably see is a bigger spike in torque down low due to more boost/timing you are able to run. Other than that the stocker looks to be getting maxed out around the 400whp range (dynojet).
at that power level the stock turbo is pretty much maxed out..you might see a slight gain in power and tq.
It would be worth it imo for the convenience of not having to mess with a mix or the price of race gas..
It would be worth it imo for the convenience of not having to mess with a mix or the price of race gas..
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Originally Posted by Creamo3
No way, not on the stock turbo. He is already reaching the limits at 25 psi and race gas. The only gains that he would probably see is a bigger spike in torque down low due to more boost/timing you are able to run. Other than that the stocker looks to be getting maxed out around the 400whp range (dynojet).
yes, if you dump c16 in the tank you aren't gonna gain anything from alky....maybe a TINY bit.
alky is more suited for an application to run daily. as in, you would have that 390-400whp DAILY instead of at the track when you dump in 11 bucks a gallon worht of c16
alky is more suited for an application to run daily. as in, you would have that 390-400whp DAILY instead of at the track when you dump in 11 bucks a gallon worht of c16