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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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is that the egr system or anti-lag.. i say egr..
EGR and Anti-lag (depending on use) are the same thing. The EGR version is more friendly to the mechanical parts then dumping fuel into the manifold/turbo. You get the same effect though
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 06:50 AM
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dude just drill it out, and buy an aftermarket one to cover it up
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 06:50 AM
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dude just get a small drill bit and drill the center of the bolt and insert an easyout. Then take a tap and re tap the thread with some penatrating fluid, get a new bolt put some anti-sieze on it and reinsert just snugly
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Grod101
dude just get a small drill bit and drill the center of the bolt and insert an easyout. Then take a tap and re tap the thread with some penatrating fluid, get a new bolt put some anti-sieze on it and reinsert just snugly
That's the plan, but I need tools which are at work.
Anyway, what the heck is an 'easyout'? We might have something similar but prolly call it different... Is it like an extractor? It's a sort of a drill but not quite.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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Is it like an extractor? It's a sort of a drill but not quite.
Yes
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:02 AM
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I recommend always putting a little anti-seize on EVERYTHING. Especially on spark plugs.
It will save you alot of headaches in the long run.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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so who's actually taken off their heat sheild and left it off? I thought bout it. because it's ugly. I hate it.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:14 AM
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The heat shield is there for just "in-case" you have a major downpour and your manifold is red-hot.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by x838nwy
That's the plan, but I need tools which are at work.
Anyway, what the heck is an 'easyout'? We might have something similar but prolly call it different... Is it like an extractor? It's a sort of a drill but not quite.

yeah that it
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ev0ikon
The heat shield is there for just "in-case" you have a major downpour and your manifold is red-hot.
Is that all it does though? I thought it would protect the radiator and other bits from the heat on the turbo and stuff?

Anyway, the stock exhaust mani looks worse.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nrcooled
For a basic explanation the tube pulls cool air into the manifold and shoots it into the turbo basically giving the effect of anti-lag without having to dump fuel into the mani/turbo to get the same effect.

I found a site that gave much more detail on the setup. I will see if I can track it down.
uhm... this isn't quite right... the bosses are there to feed the misfiring system air so the retarded spark will actually ignite the retarded fuel. no air means no bang bang.

Originally Posted by x838nwy
Ahh... thanks dude.

I run an ECU by Ralliart and they go on about "regulation value of the exhaust gas temperature which is decided from durability of the turbocharger and the like efficiency improvement in transient of the actual car is actualized" which could be something to do with the control of this anti-lag stuff.
this part is mainly talking about how if you don't run the antilag tuning hten it keeps your egts cooler becuase it spoots cold air in there. it also makes the transient response better because it's spootin' a lil air in there giving you the "affect" of antilag as the guy said above, altho this effect is quite miniscule and is nothing even close to the real antilag.

Originally Posted by dafarmer69
is that the egr system or anti-lag.. i say egr..
it is indeed the antilag system. in fact this is the best way to implement antilag and this is why it is present on non usdm evos because of the homologation requirement. they just omit the tuning and spray the bov air into the manifold.

Originally Posted by nrcooled
EGR and Anti-lag (depending on use) are the same thing. The EGR version is more friendly to the mechanical parts then dumping fuel into the manifold/turbo. You get the same effect though
egr is not hte same thing as antilag and dafarmer's question was that of hte legitimacy of the bosses, which i confirmed.

egr stands for exhaust gas recirculation and is a smog device that recirculates your exhaust air back into your engine during light load and engine braking conditions. this allows the car to save gas becuase no air means no combustions needed and also prevents new emissions from being formed, because if you heat up some fresh air you'll create more emissions, if you heat up air that has already been heated, then you're not creating any more emissions than you already did.

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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by trinydex
uhm... this isn't quite right... the bosses are there to feed the misfiring system air so the retarded spark will actually ignite the retarded fuel. no air means no bang bang.


this part is mainly talking about how if you don't run the antilag tuning hten it keeps your egts cooler becuase it spoots cold air in there. it also makes the transient response better because it's spootin' a lil air in there giving you the "affect" of antilag as the guy said above, altho this effect is quite miniscule and is nothing even close to the real antilag.


it is indeed the antilag system. in fact this is the best way to implement antilag and this is why it is present on non usdm evos because of the homologation requirement. they just omit the tuning and spray the bov air into the manifold.
From what i have been reading the bosses don't really do any thing on the street Evos since there is no ECU control over the ignition timing at lift throttle. Sorry I can't speak from 1st hand experience
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nrcooled
From what i have been reading the bosses don't really do any thing on the street Evos since there is no ECU control over the ignition timing at lift throttle. Sorry I can't speak from 1st hand experience
i already said that...

also for future reference... try not to say too many misleading things in one thread...
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by trinydex
egr is not hte same thing as antilag and dafarmer's question was that of hte legitimacy of the bosses, which i confirmed.

egr stands for exhaust gas recirculation and is a smog device that recirculates your exhaust air back into your engine during light load and engine braking conditions. this allows the car to save gas becuase no air means no combustions needed and also prevents new emissions from being formed, because if you heat up some fresh air you'll create more emissions, if you heat up air that has already been heated, then you're not creating any more emissions than you already did.
Starting in 2002 new anti-lag techniques, such as Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR), are slowly overtaking the method described above as they are kinder on the engine's mechanical parts.
http://www.rallycars.com/Cars/bangbang.html

just FYI and the reason why I said "depending on useage"

As far as saying misleading things, I think we are talking about the exact same thing just in different manners.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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When I did something similar I used a in-and-out i picked up at craftsman.

Basically, you drill a pilot hole right into the bolt. Then you drill just a little bit deeper. Then you use the special drill bit that will hook up to the broken bolt head and pull it right out, saving the threads.
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