Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

Spark Plugs and Wires??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 07:27 AM
  #1  
spragueevo8's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Spark Plugs and Wires??

Has anyone changed there plugs and wires from the stock ones? I was having a misfire on one of the cylinders and had to change the plug and wire for that cylinder. I am looking at changing all four now. What do you guys or gals recommend for better performance as far as the plugs and wires go??
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 08:33 AM
  #2  
Warrtalon's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 20,790
Likes: 2
From: Long Island, NY
There is no better performance to be had from plugs and wires unless your plugs are fouled or unless you have gotten to a boost level that blows out the spark on your stock-like plugs. A misfire would not have caused you to replace the plug AND wire. You don't normally do just one at a time - that's strange.

For your mods, you are fine with the stock heat range plugs - NGK BPR7ES gapped to .026.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 08:39 AM
  #3  
bluebyu36's Avatar
Evolved Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,669
Likes: 0
From: new york
stay with the stock plugs they seem to work the best
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 09:32 AM
  #4  
nj1266's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,254
Likes: 13
From: USA
Originally Posted by spragueevo8
Has anyone changed there plugs and wires from the stock ones? I was having a misfire on one of the cylinders and had to change the plug and wire for that cylinder. I am looking at changing all four now. What do you guys or gals recommend for better performance as far as the plugs and wires go??
I believe that the EVO ignition system is marginal at best. The moment you turn up the boost or add any power to the car you will start blowing out the spark and then you will get the misfire.

I have been running my Innovate unit on my EVO after I installed a TBE and drop in k&n and before I got a tune. I invariably get spikes in the AFR on the logs. Even after the tune I still got the spikes in the AFR. The car runs great, but you will get those spikes indicating a blown spark. There is no misfire, just one data point of a blown spark.

I have tried several options to combat this problem:

1. I changed my plugs to the copper BPR7ES and gapped them to 0.025. Someone on the Innovate forums told me that copper plugs will help eliminate the incidence of blown sparks. It did help a bit, but blown sparks are still there.

2. I just installed the Sunpro Ignition booster unit. Gruppe-S tested it and they gained about 8 hp from it. I am hoping that this unit will help me eliminate that nasty spike in the AFR. So far I have not doen any test runs and the only advantage that I noticed is a smoother idle.

3. My final option is to get the new Buschur coil on plug unit with their booster unit. But that is a $750 unit.

Your best bet is the stock wires and the copper plugs. Change them regularly and you can avoid the misfires. Mitsu cheaped out when it came to the ignition. Instead of having individual coils on plugs they put one coil for two plugs. This is just silly on a car that runs 20.5 psi stock boost.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 10:50 AM
  #5  
Ckjeepin's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 193
Likes: 0
From: Hill Air Force Base
Don't change the wires. Alot of people have problems with aftermarket wires..
I just change plugs to bpr7es every oil change.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 10:55 AM
  #6  
smokedmustang's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 6,591
Likes: 1
From: Indy
I have the HKS DLI II. It is GREAT, had the Magnacor wires, THEY B L O W!!! Swapped back to stock plug wires, NO PROBLEMS!!
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 01:38 PM
  #7  
k270kmh's Avatar
Evolved Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,041
Likes: 1
Unless the Ralliart is lying you get 6hp by changing from the stock to the Ralliart spark plug wires.
After I installed the Ralliart wires I felt a good improvement = engine reving faster.

Regarding the spark plugs, as our friend mentioned the stock plugs seem to be the best. I will come back to the stock spark plugs next oil change.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 03:06 PM
  #8  
richie11's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 133
Likes: 0
just get a hks DLI II, it great i have one, no problems and it's plug and play
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 03:15 PM
  #9  
hotrod2448's Avatar
Evolved Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,815
Likes: 24
From: Davidson, NC
A lot of people have switched to the copper plugs because they are cheap and they plan on replacing them frequently. I'm runnig the Denso iriduims and have had no issues with them at all.

Plug wires= stock or Ralliart seem to be pretty much the best available for the factory ignition.

OT: Has anybody had much success with the MSD DIS2? I searched a little and didn't find that much info.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 06:03 PM
  #10  
nj1266's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,254
Likes: 13
From: USA
Originally Posted by richie11
just get a hks DLI II, it great i have one, no problems and it's plug and play
If you can find one!!! No shop seems to have them. They are on back order. The Sunpro does the same thing and it is plug and play.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
fuzzycuffs
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
9
Feb 23, 2017 11:20 AM
justin.AZ
Lancer Engine Tech
6
Oct 2, 2009 06:58 AM
bsc7080emn
Lancer Troubleshooting
5
Dec 28, 2006 04:01 PM
MVEOVA
Evo How To Requests / Questions / Tips
4
Mar 9, 2005 07:28 AM
Chris in HB
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
19
Jun 24, 2004 06:00 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:29 PM.