One thing is positive, I need a motor due to a spun-bearing. I am having this "little" show, and want to compete in it. I am unable to get the parts in time thru Buschur or AMS. I have heard about slowboy, and have looked at their site, and parts. I was told they could get a package together to make the "show". I dont have a problem with using them, as I have researched their parts, and they do a great job. It is the "combo" I am undecided on at the moment. I will find out more on Monday.

It is a "ricer boys" wet dream list I guess, but I am not sure which to go for. There have been write-ups out the wazoo on turbo kits/parts for the AMS/Buschur camps, and we know how they perform( AWESOME) but how do the "other" shops hold up to the bar they raised so high? I will find out and report back for those interested!

 

: Sorry to hear about your motor.Time for a build up!!headbang:Im in the process of a builld myself.I just did alot of business with the vendor mentioned above.Let me start by saying Im not hear to bash anyone but unfortunatly the word "SLOW"speaks for its self.I puchased an engine package that was "in stock"and i woud receive it within a few weeks.To me that is three to four weeks.Well after about two months i get my parts. I take everything to the machine shop for my build and turns out i got a crank for a dodge mini van So i try to call the shipping dept several times with nothing but "please leave message".Finally I got ahold of someone and they would'nt do any kind of express shipping on there part to make it right.Well I still have not got my crank yet.They are great on there prices!! That is true, but on the customer service???That was what i went through.Sounds like your building a beast!!!Well good luck on whatever you choose and keep us posted

 

I see...it seemed from your first post you'd already decided on the parts but from the subsequent posts, it seemed you were getting wooed by any other opinions.

Have you thought about needing a transmission upgrade because your stocker won't like being shifted at 10.5k? Or how about needing new cams, valvetrain to support power that high.

IMO it would be best to go with what's tried and true...2.3L stroker with GT35R and alky.

 

Thats too bad. I hope they make it right for you, and since time is of the essence here, We will see if they can cut the "mustard". I really cant wait 2-3 months for something "in-stock", I will keep you posted. Again, sorry to hear about your expierence.

 

Yeah I agree, the 10.5 RPM sounded sweet, but I don't think that is too practical, after drinking my starbucks, and re-thinking it. a car with that much OOOOMPH, would be a pain to drive, and tune is my guess. The stroker with the 35 is more logical and practical, and the best allaround tried and true combo. I do agree, the next thing to blow is the tranny, so the 10.5K RPM might make me go TRE for a re-build, than what is the next weakest link in the chain? I better gun for the stroker/35/mild head work (springs) and BE DONE WITH IT!!

 

Unfortunately, you get what you pay for. Hopefully you won't be burned again.

 

my destroker parts took a 2 months as well but you can't beat the price...

 

you will have a much larger "useable" power band if you can rev high. You will get full spool with a gt35r on the 4g64 2.1 at say 4k. So from 4k-9k you will be pegged to the seat. Thats 5k RPM of useable power! Now with a 4g63 2.3 you will maybe get full spool 200-300rpm sooner but then have to shift at 8k ... and 8k is really pushing it on a stroker whereas 9k will be prefectly safe on the 2.1. I rather have the extra 1-2k of power than have the "faster spool" of the 2.3.

 

SBR is a great company. You should be very happy with them. Way back when Mike first started SBR, I bought one of the first turbos he ever sold. (SBR G57 for a 1g talon.) It was a great turbo and I got the best customer service I've ever had. I bought quite a few other things since then and have always been very happy.

 

WWWWWRRRRRRRRONG

8K is not pushing a stroker motor buschur, although he doesnt reccomend it for a street car revs to 9k, on a stock top end 8k is safe, with valve springs and such 8500 is not a problem. Also the gain in spool is more than 2-300 rpm sooner.

Also I dont know about anybody else, but I know with my 2.3 I like the fact that my car doesnt have to sound like a raged ape when I wanto have a little fun, I make full boost by 3500 rpms in 5th(22 psi) and about 3600-3700 rpms in 4th and 3800 rpms in 3rd, so by the time im at 4 grand im already making 350 ft lbs of tq, which is nice for a car your going to be driving on the street.

However if you are sticking with a stock turbo or stock based turbo, could be a 20-9G, I cannot tell, I could see why a 2.1 would be nice, but I'll take the tq any day of the week

Scorke

Scorke

 

ok great i look forward to the dyno sheet and street pulls of your car at 8.5k

 

Did I say 8.5k, no did I say 8k, yes. My current rev limit is 8100, Doug from TopSpeed felt this was a safe place to set it, he did 10+pulls to this rev limit, are you really doubting me or just trying to prod?

Scorke

p.s. search button is your friend

 

ok sooooo how was i WRRROOONNGGG? Your setup at 8.1k and you don't want to go higher since it is SAFE?????

 

10+ pulls? Is that supposed to imply any sort of reliability?

Let's face it, the piston speed at 7500 and higher is just ridiculous. You cannot expect these motors to last long under such stress. Yea there's plenty of stroker owners who are revving up beyond 7500, but most people have neither the time nor the money for rebuilds as frequent as such a rev range would entail.

 

The other very important part is will the combo be making power up at 9K? You need one honking turbo to make power up there. If you look at most 35R dynos HP/TQ peaks are way below 9K. Just because you can rev higher doesn't mean much if the combo doesn't need to be revved that high. IMO a 35R won't need to be revved that high.

Even Dan. B...white EVO with AMS 37R lot's of videos, JUN 272 cams, etc doesn't rev to 9K except when he keeps it in 4th to ride out the 1/4 he recently trapped 147mph on a 16'' tire!!

2.3 with a 35R and you can still have a multi dimensional car anymore is pushing it IMO.