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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Suggestions on Intercooler for RoadRacing

What the title says, a few more whp, and improved effectiveness on real hot weather.

Vendors shoot away, I need one that I can keep the stock undertray as Im using the Mitsubishi brake ducts. Oh and of course a vendor that can ship to PR

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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 02:22 AM
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you need something that can take the heat, that means heat sink mass. i would suggest the nisei.

i'm sure buschur will come in and suggest his race intercooler which is running on his time attack car.

the thing is though, heavy intercoolers are a bit of a catch 22 in roadracing. you want less weight on the nose. but some things must be compromised. it's up to you what you want to use.

kent jordan's car used the greddy rspec. i would suspect that it cools sufficiently. the tune is smart so it won't pop engines.

so in the end it's about how much of that cooling you deem necessary.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 07:02 AM
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Bigger is better when it comes to road racing.

I went with Buchurs Race FMIC and I will do my best to log temps on my next trip to VIR to see what she does for me. I will be running a bigger turbo to compliment to stroker though
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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I fitted the AMS cooler - kept the under tray (also running the mitsu ducts) just had to cut out a piece about 15" wide and 3" deep to fit the tray around the cooler.

I can take a pic if you want?

Mike
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Boosted GP
I fitted the AMS cooler - kept the under tray (also running the mitsu ducts) just had to cut out a piece about 15" wide and 3" deep to fit the tray around the cooler.

I can take a pic if you want?

Mike
I would like to see a pic of this.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by nrcooled
Bigger is better when it comes to road racing.

I went with Buchurs Race FMIC and I will do my best to log temps on my next trip to VIR to see what she does for me. I will be running a bigger turbo to compliment to stroker though
Bigger is worse when it comes to road racing, you want the smallest/lightest parts that get the job done.

Which car on EVOM do you think is most devoted to going fast on a road course?

My pick would be the AMS onelap car.....they run there regular IC upgrade, I wouldnt go any bigger unless your running a gt37 or larger.

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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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I will keep reading, so far the masses have suggested AMS, but some more suggestions and comparisons wouldnt hurt at all

Thanks everyone for the input, if pics can be taken it would be nice.
I heared the Nisei had fitment issues
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by nrcooled
I would like to see a pic of this.
Yes please, that the only thing stoping me from getting one , thank you
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Boosted GP
I fitted the AMS cooler - kept the under tray (also running the mitsu ducts) just had to cut out a piece about 15" wide and 3" deep to fit the tray around the cooler.

I can take a pic if you want?

Mike
Send pics or post them ASAP
AMS seems to be the kind winner heheh
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by scorke
Bigger is worse when it comes to road racing, you want the smallest/lightest parts that get the job done.

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I can't really agree with your statement. One if you look at his location he is in PR which I would assume it gets damn hot down there. He will need as much cooling as possible to keep the "detonation demons" at bay. Also, take into account that we are all not professional SCCA licenced racers.

A little extra weight up front on my car will not make the difference between winning or loosing. It means that I don't have to run a completely ***** map on my UTEC to keep the ECU from pulling timing.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Actually, road racing and drag racing place different demands on ICs. Unlike drag racing, road racing doesn't last only a few seconds. The IC must be able to continually dissipate heat faster than that heat is being applied. If it cannot do this, the power lost from heat soak will more than offset 5-10 extra pounds of weight.

Another factor is the size of the turbo relative to engine demands and the boost pressure. A smaller turbo being pushed hard will continually apply greater demands on the IC than a larger turbo running more efficiently at the same boost pressure. This being said, I'd be inclined to fit the largest, best IC I could fit in the car for road racing in warm weather, and save the 'smallest, lightest' rationale for drag racing.

When it comes to road racing, the ability to effectively control the temperature of the coolant, oil, and intake air over extended lengths of time is more important than peak hp humbers. And where hp is concerned, more hp = more heat.
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