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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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Thanks for backing me up Warrtalon! You said basically the same thing I was going to before my computer crashed! Anyways, I really have nothing to say to you Assasin. Anyways, I have a short antenna because the stock antenna looks gays. Also the Blitz radiator cap is high pressure which keeps the cooling system cooler. Also I have the APS valve, like Warrtalon mentioned, to hold boost better, and NOT to make noise as you so claim that's what they're for. The 05's have plastic valves stock, so I wanted to upgrade something a little more robust. I don't think any of the things I have done to my car constitute ricer mods.
well not that i want to jump into this....but, you bought the aps because it was more robust ? im sure it didnt have anything to do with the fact that it is proven to hold boost, recirc, and vta at the same time to make noise and not cause stalling... because otherwise if it was just performace you would of gone with the cheaper mr diverter valve or some other kind of DV that didnt vent... i dont really think your radiator cap has ever, will ever or could ever keep your cooling system colder. unless there is something crazy about it that i dont know about. With this type of technology, the Ralliart Oil cap i had on my 03 probably kept my oil temp cooler. Anyhow, i dont mean to bust on you, i just find it hard to believe that with all the BOV's out there, your choice of APS was simply performance and not the VTA of it... if it was performance... do you have the adjustment screw tightened all the way so it doesnt vta at all ?

In closing, not that i agree with the other guy and name calling and what not either, or disagree with the aps or anything else.... just commenting on your claim

Also, real quick, i had the aps on my ix for the same reason... dual vent and it didnt cause idling problems... i now have a type s on because the upper IC pipe i have came flanged for it and came with it. i have no stalling issues, car runs fine and it actually is holding boost better then the aps was... i havent boosted above 20 yet because my clutch is slipping and i dont want to put any more stress on anything until my other clutch gets installed wednesday.

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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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Honestly I bought the APS BOV based on many positive reviews I have read about and also some of the things you mentioned as well (hold boost, recirc, and vta at the same time to make noise and not cause stalling). I guess I admit I do like the sound, if any, that it makes based on the way I have it adjusted. I have adjusted it based on the way I drive.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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in that case why blast him for saying he got his bov for noise or saying thats what they are for when you did the same thing in a sense, just had other beneficial aspects ... get my point ?

he is wrong in saying your stock works just fine... he is wrong for name calling and whatnot... but dont add to the fire by being as immature as he is

I like the aps also, and will probably have that portion of my upper ic pipe cut and put a flange for my aps back on because in the end recircing seems a lot more reliable... and while i am having no driving issues with the type s now, i dont want any later

also out of curiosity ? what is a boost tube ? i've never heard of this before
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Anyways, I was just saying that he should be glad its quiet because who wants a lot of unnecessary noise? As long as it was recirculating then you're good to go, that was my point. So you want to know about the Boost tube? its basically a silicone UICP that goes from the throttle body to the intercooler pipes right below the stock air box. It is all one piece and is 15% larger than stock with constant inside diameter that is completelty smooth, so it helps smooth out the air flow. And it fits with the stock battery. here is a pic.

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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by dan628
But some day I might need to change it and its just peace of mind. I swear it holds the boost higher closer to red line better, so I am glad that I bought it. At least its one less thing I'll have to do later before I get tuned. I don't know why you have to come across so mean, we're all here to help each other I thought!
Indeed we are. Sorry about comin off like that, but I just hate when people critcize someone for buying a BOV/DV for the sound. I personally love the way a TT supra sounds modded to crap with dual HKS SSQVs on it. If that makes me a ricer, then so be it. Ya know?

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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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oh ok.. thanks for the pic... some people do like unnecessary noise, i dont like the constant noises, but as far as a BOV you dont hear it all that often.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bigric09
oh ok.. thanks for the pic... some people do like unnecessary noise, i dont like the constant noises, but as far as a BOV you dont hear it all that often.
And bigric, I'm NOT wrong for saying the stock BOV/DV works fine. Because most of them do. Just as mine does. My car boosts and holds 21psi just fine with the stock one. So show me where I'm wrong about that.

I already apologized for the name calling. I just hate the EVOM criticism that people get. If your mod path is look and sound, then go for it.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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DO NOT post PM's publically... if you have a problem, forward it to a Mod!

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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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hey check out this PM i just for from out friend the assasin!!
Hey I already apologized for that. lol. People on EvoM annoy me so I'm quick to blow up at you. But, there's a reason why i kept in a PM.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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Assassin, again you show your ignorance on the matter. You think your stock BOV boosts and holds 21psi fine, but what you don't realize is that your boost gauge isn't going to tell you if the BOV is leaking. Several of us have tested the stocker to begin opening at 13psi. This means that although you see 21psi all the time and think it holds fine, your turbo is actually having to work HARDER than normal in order to overcome that weak BOV while trying to maintain 21 gauge psi. In essence, it is pushing 23-24psi just to maintain what you see as 21psi.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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Maybe you shouldn't come here then....
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Assassin
And bigric, I'm NOT wrong for saying the stock BOV/DV works fine. Because most of them do. Just as mine does. My car boosts and holds 21psi just fine with the stock one. So show me where I'm wrong about that.

I already apologized for the name calling. I just hate the EVOM criticism that people get. If your mod path is look and sound, then go for it.
you have a plastic BOV, which is notorious for leaking, yours may not leak yet, yours may never leak, no way of telling if yours will ever leak.... but if you search through this forum, you can count how many have had stock DV's that were plastic and they found to be leaking and had to replace them

and i was just about to say wait till warrtalon reads that, but he beat me to it lol
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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Also, comparing an exhaust to a BOV makes no sense. People don't buy exhausts that make no power and hurt the performance of the car just for the sound. No, they get exhausts that give 30whp while choosing the one that the best to them. That is nothing like getting a BOV just for sound when it provides no performance gain and likely causes a performance degradation. That is a terrible analogy.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Assassin, again you show your ignorance on the matter. You think your stock BOV boosts and holds 21psi fine, but what you don't realize is that your boost gauge isn't going to tell you if the BOV is leaking. Several of us have tested the stocker to begin opening at 13psi. This means that although you see 21psi all the time and think it holds fine, your turbo is actually having to work HARDER than normal in order to overcome that weak BOV while trying to maintain 21 gauge psi. In essence, it is pushing 23-24psi just to maintain what you see as 21psi.
Ok. You can have that one because you have facts to prove your statement. but WAIT!!! I thought it was a DV all mighty one??!!! lol

I also remember a few times that you stated the stocker works just fine. Seems like you contradict yourself every now and then.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bigric09
you have a plastic BOV, which is notorious for leaking, yours may not leak yet, yours may never leak, no way of telling if yours will ever leak.... but if you search through this forum, you can count how many have had stock DV's that were plastic and they found to be leaking and had to replace them

and i was just about to say wait till warrtalon reads that, but he beat me to it lol
They all "leak" the same. They start opening at a low psi, well before the boost levels that we run stock. They don't just randomly start "leaking" - that's just how they are designed - to open early.
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